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harpreetd · Joined: 07 Oct 2005 Posts: 174

I'm kind of getting tired of these debates on LOST. Why do you waste your energy mocking the bad things about LOST this season?? Just enjoy it. You dont have to be CRAZY about it, just enjoy it.

I know you have the right to say what you want, but it's destroying the mood around here. Just talk about things you liked in the episodes.. it's not very hard.

And Rocksiren, yes I did watch Season 1. I did love Season 1, but I don't understand why you hate Season 2? It's just as interesting and exciting to watch. I have seen Season 1 several times, but I rank it on the same level as this season's if not better.

Polarbear · Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 4:52 am Post subject:

Play by play:

1. MOS/MOF vs. The Pilots- no contest for me even though MOS/MOF was good.

2. Adrift vs. Tabula Rasa. TR wasn't a spectacular episode but Adrift was my worst of the series.

3. Orientation vs. Walkabout- Walkabout easily.

4. Everyone Hates Hugo vs. White Rabbit. EHH for me although they are pretty evenly split.

5. ..And Found vs. HOTRS. HOTRS by a mile.

6. Abandoned vs. The Moth. Moth easily.

7. The Other 48 Days vs. Confidence Man. CM for me although TO48D was a good premise for an episode. I hope they do more island flashbacks.

8. Collision vs. Solitary. Solitary defintely.

9. What Kate Did vs. Raised by Another- Ethan turns bad nuff said.

10. The 23rd Psalm vs All the best Cowboys- 23rd Psalm most definetly- best episode of the season so far imo.

11. Hunting Party vs. WTCMB- WTCMB for me. Jack's flashbacks let the eppy down.

12. Fire and Water vs. Hearts and Minds. Hearts and Minds for me although they are both middle of the road eppies of Lost I think.

13. The Long Con vs. Special- Special was the worst of season one imo so I have to go with TLC for the evil Sawyer and Charlie thing. I dig that.

Season One- 10 vs. Season Two 3
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Enchirito · Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 5:18 am Post subject:

great idea! thats quite a fair comparison too.

i would only flip on:

Moth vs Abandoned. Abandoned.. mostly because of the last few seconds. And I didn't think Charlie's drug drama was that good even the first time round.

Confidence Man vs. Other 48 Days. 48days for sure.

Whatever the Case May Be vs. Hunting Party. Are u kidding? HP wasn't great but it beats WTCase for sure!

Special vs. The Long Con. I'd say Special was better.

Season 1: 9
Season 2: 4
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Rocksiren · Expert Vidder Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Posts: 2576

I cant believe that I, single-handedly am actually destroying the mood around here! Thats totally unfair. As for debates, this is WHERE we debate. We all love the show- and ONCE AGAIN ILL REPEAT- I DONT HATE SEASON 2!!! I agree with most of PB's- although I must say that I think White Rabbit was better than Everybody Hates Hugo- like we didnt really need to know that Hurley won the lottery- we knew that already.

Whats the point of having a forum if everyone is just going to agree 100%? Why even have it?

But will someone come to my defense? This is getting totally unfair- but if I must take the brunt of people who are offended for no reason for others to say what they want to say without fear of being attacked- Ill be that martyr.
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Anya · Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 4:03 pm Post subject:

OMG please stop fighting...We all have right to our opinions...Somebody likes season 1 better and someone likes season 2 better...
Don't feel bad Rocksiren, you are not destroying the mood around here...

I personaly like both seasons... And in both seasons I can name a couple of episodes I just didn't like... TLC was one of those episodes even though I love Sawyer!
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harpreetd · Joined: 07 Oct 2005 Posts: 174

Yes, Okay.. I agree with you, Rocksiren that the forum shouldnt always be 100% in agreement, but im beginning to think that people are closer to 100% in disagreement. A disturbance in the "balance" if you will. LOST is still a great show and it will still be watched. I'm just upset at how many people complain about the bad things about LOST rather than talk about things they liked.

All I can say is that: people shouldn't try to beat themselves about how
bad the episodes are this season, just have some fun watching it. Just Sit back and enjoy it.

Rocksiren, I do not wish to argue with you anymore so I will give up on this "battle" with you. I can see where your coming from and your views are well supported. Season 2 is not over yet, and there will probably be some great episodes coming soon- (I have seen some great episodes thus far as well). All I want to do now is watch LOST rather than worry about it. There im done.

Season 1 was great, but it had its fair share of bad eps. (In my opinion, thank you. )

Rocksiren, you win the battle. But is it really worth it? I do not wish to argue with people anymore. And maybe we can be friends?

Rocksiren · Expert Vidder Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Posts: 2576

IM not arguing with you or anybody else! Im not a child- Im not going to stomp my feet and stand with fists and proclaim I have to win- there is nothing to win or lose! My god, is there no one on this whole forum who sees that Im not arguing? Im not enemies with anybody- I thought you were my friend HArp.

OKAY since everything is going to be tweedle dee tweedle dum, I was assuming things that WERENT mentioned were things we were okay with, but since everyone thinks Im such a horrible hate monger, here are things I liked:

Jack and Locke arguing- Foxy and Terry bring great energies to their conflict, its awesome to see. Also that "theres a lot of cliffs on this island John".

Sawyer's speech- it was funny and empowering at the same time. I wondered if he still had that marshall badge.

A different side of Charlie- him wanting Locke to be humiliated; being the willing participant AND mark in the con. I agree with Paul on Charlie.

Kate and Ana actually looking at each other- up until now, theyve barely glanced at each other which I thought was odd. And they have yet to speak to each other.

The status of "the army"- it was brought up, I got excited, then not mentioned in 12 at all.

Enough?
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harpreetd · Joined: 07 Oct 2005 Posts: 174

WOaH... dude just chill.

All im saying is that we all need to just enjoy the show. Your making it too serious. Just chill bro.

Rocksiren · Expert Vidder Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Posts: 2576

passive aggressive.
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SuperKC · Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 6:23 pm Post subject:

Rocksiren · Expert Vidder Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Posts: 2576

Thanks KC- we have to come up with a name for our group...
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Hobbes · Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 2:48 am Post subject:

1. RS, sorry to pin you with that, but I had just happened to have gotten on at that time when you were the last poster, got a little ticked off with all the still-constant complaining from everyone, and saw a post by you that seemed to be a very sarcastic pull at harpreetd and I thought "enough is enough". It really wasn't aimed at you intentionally. And if you look at the rest of the posts there isn't a single other one that singles you out, so please don't feel like this is against you.

2. I completely agree with harpreetd on all of this. Yes I know this season haven't been masterful. I haven't been blown away by many eps this season, but I have enjoyed them nonetheless, and thought they were still good works overall, especially for less-experienced writers (and I'm with E now, just gonna look for an episode with the big guys to look forward to lol) but I really don't think they all deserve 20 posts by seperate people every epsidoe saying "That episode was bad and here's why". We're not even getting to the point when people say good things yet

The best has basically been a concensus that "yeah this ep was better, but the next one better be on track too!" We never even mention, as a whole, the good things about the damn show

. We're so caught up in waiting for the "bad" eps to end... and what if they don't? What if we're stuck with mediocre Lost eps for eternity, and there never is anything better? Will suddenly every episode be a bad ep?

3. If these mediocre eps are so bad, then was Season 1 really that great? I seem to remember a lot of so-so eps that weren't so wonderful then too. In fact, the few that I loved just happened to be... well... new. It was a surprise that made me love Walkabout, the newness of the show that made the Pilot great, Boone's first ep in Hearts and Minds, and the surprise of his death (I wasn't very Spoiled then) in Deux ex Machina that made me love that one. This season I particularilly liked Orientation just for finding out about the island, The Other 48 for the same reason, and The 23rd Psalm because... well, it was Eko! I can bet you guys the next Eko eps is going to be one fo those so-so eps though, because of course... there's nothing much else to say about his life, so why would we care?
In fact, using this principle of tearning down every epsidoe, I'm quite confident I can disect every single episode we've had into why it was bad, or why we liked it for stupid reasons. Take Walkabout, if it wasn't for the fact that that was Locke's first ep, and we were completely taken out of left field by the crazy notion that he was in a wheelchair. there wasn't anything else to the ep besides people going hunting and Shannon screwing Charlie into getting a fish. Whoop dee doo.
There, I just ruined the best ep we've had yet by pure logic, isn't that won-dundy-underful?
These threads sound like a bunch of seniors whining about the old days and how they were so much better, bhut you know what? What if they weren't? And where does this lead you as you keep going down your spiral of crap as everything is getting worse and worse?
So, smell the roses, and don't rain on the parade of the innocent few here who still have not suscummed to the "You can tell how much I love this show by how by how much I complain about it" syndrome.

4. Of course I'm not going to say don't express your opinions, you have that right, but if you all have the right to complain then we have the right to complain about your complaining. I've never done anything to force anyone to stop, I've just argued, begged, and pleaded.
A friend of mine who is a cadet says the modern Army has a system for giving criticism (yeah, no more Full Metal Jacket-esque stuff): A compliment sandwich. Compliment, criticism, compliment. What's wrong with that? I haven't heard a nice thing we've agreed on about this show for far too long...

Fan4Lost · Advanced Vidder Joined: 12 Jan 2006 Posts: 2224

Okay...I love my girls(pink ladies)...so I have to say:

Opinions are opinions - everyone is entitled to one. One time I got in a fight in religion class (like a thousand years ago) with my teacher about some religious stuff (won't go into it). It really made me upset...I was freaked out for days over it. My mom finally told me the wisest words I've ever heard:

'Sometimes, not everyone can agree on everything. It's what makes marriages die, family members hate each other, friends never speak again, and wars fought. But in all of our opinionated beliefs, it's what makes us human. Free will. So, if someone else's opinion bothers you, you have to remember that without the freedom to believe what we want then you take away our humanity.'

Something along those lines. Basically what she was trying to say was, it's okay to feel differently towards things than other people. It's part of who we are and how we live. So, it's cool to have differences of opinion. The mood isn't being destroyed around here...it's just the way it should be. We're people, we can't agree on everthing. Some people like the second season, some don't...that's perfectly normal. There are so many cool people on this board, and I have made so many new friends. But we don't all agree on the same things about Lost. But I'm cool with that...because I respect my friends opinions and views. Just don't fight about it, tho. I don't want to see my friends fighting...it makes me sad

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There is one thing that I am so certain about and that is I love all you guys (I sound drunk) and I don't care if you don't think the same things as me. I like you just the way you are (now I sound like Billy Joel).

So, with that said, I'm going to sign off the thread for now with love in my heart

and hope that you guys understood any of my ramblings.

Peace out...

Anya · Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:49 pm Post subject:

It would be stupid of me to quote everything that F4L just wrote... But she is right... We need to agree on the fact that we disagree!
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Hobbes · Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 4:46 am Post subject:

I'm sorry, but I don't agree to that. It's not about me not agreeing with you that Lost is starting to go downhill, it's about you all going on and on about it, and really ruining ANY part of it that WAS good. I'm not arguing, I'm complaining and pleading you all to stop.