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lostcalier · Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 8:50 pm Post subject: Anti-bashing of new blood

Okay, I have just about had it this season with new actors being added to established shows then being based by those fandoms. Here's just a small list of the ones that I know of so far this season:

Rachel Nichols (Rachel Gibson on Alias), people apparently don't understand that Jennifer Garner is pregnant and for Alias to have a action packed 5th season they needed to give Syd a spy in training to pick up the slack. She is playing a part and people can think she is a wimp or not fit for the job but those people apparently missed the episodes where it was explained that she is NOT field trained and this is all very new to her. But I'd say she is doing a damn good job for the short amount of time she's had to train. And Rachel Nichols is doing a great job acting teh part.

Balthazar Getty (Thomas Grace on Alias), poor guy doesn't even have a chance because there are to many crazy Alias fans that are angry over Vartan's departure. Balthazar is a good actor and just like Rachel he is playing a part that is being written by someone else. Why punish him for simply doing a job that benefits us by giving us an hour of escapism from reality? Plus I think he's a good looking guy and it's not like he's trying to take Vartan's place. He is NOTHING like Vaughn and not meant to be.

Michelle Rodriguez (Ana-Lucia on Lost), well you guys should have expected me to include her. People have just not given the character a chance. I was reading an article where Damon mentioned that they wanted people to start off hating her so they could pull back the layers on her. I just hope people give her a chance because what I've seen lately throughout the Lost community doesn't look good for most people to give her a shot. Which is a shame because I think the character has incredible potential. Now most people are just going to see her as the one that killed Shannon and broke up Shayid. Sad day when people can't understand the importance of moving along a story by having to do stuff like that. It's a part of a storytellers job.

Kaley Cuoco (Billie on Charmed), this is one of the saddest of all the ones I've seen so far this season. Absolutely no one is giving this poor girl a chance and she's doing such a good job. I think Charmed fans don't realize that it is very possible the only reason Charmed came back this season was because they introudced her character. So before people bash her they should give her a chance then thank her for playing the part that very possible allowed a Season 8. What's even worse is they are talking about maybe doing a Charmed spin-off for her character and people are now petitioning for it to be about Chris and Wyatt. It's ridiculous that people are so close minded that they can't see the bigger picture here.

Okay, that's just the ones I know of this season but I'm sure there are lots of others. So if you know of one please post it here. These actors and characters deserve some kind of support.

I'm just frustrated at how negative the fan community on the web has become. Across the board they just can't accept change. Maybe it's the writter in me that allows me to accept what they are doing with shows but I wish peopel would give new actors and characters a chance before trashing them. Even worse before they try and prevent them from moving on with spin-offs or extended stays on shows.

Everyone is entitled to there own opinions so I'm not trying to persuade anyone to like these characters and actors. But I do want peopel to realize that things happen with long running shows that cause producers to have to adapt and change storylines which often involve introducing new actors. And actors have to audition for parts so the people that run the shows you all love have to approve these people before they allow them to play these characters. So if you are a true fan of a show put a little faith in the people that brought you that show.

I'll admit shows have done things that I don't like but if you keep watching and don't give up they usually redeem themselves once all the pieces come together. You just have to have patience and wait. Storytelling is an art and you have to be careful not to reveal to much to soon or too little. It's a fine line but if a show pulls it off it can be brilliant once the story play outs. So what I would ask of all of you that have made it this far through this rant is to give these characters and actors a chance and if you truly believe in a new character or actor that is being bashed don't be afraid to stand behind them.

One day I hope to be writing or producing a TV series and I would hope that the fans would stand behind me on my decisions. Especially when I know where the story is going and how great it will be.

Okay that concludes my rant for the day...lol. All comments are welcome but please keep bashing of all sorts to a bare minimum if you must use it at all. I've just about had my fill of bashing on message boards for one afternoon (guess that's what I get for spending my first free afternoon in weeks surfing the net

). Off to watch some Lost videos and remind myself why I love this fandom so much more then others lately. At least we tend to be a bit more understanding (not much towards some but more then most fandoms).

Anwyay, I'm really don't ranting now...lol.
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Ringwench · Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:12 pm Post subject:

I can understand where you're coming from with this, and I do try to give new characters the benefit of the doubt before deciding if I do or do not like them.

There's only 2 shows I watch regularly that have added new characters this season, and I did approach these new characters with an open mind.

Veronica Mars is the first show, they added a new character, Jackie. I was perfectly willing to accept her but oh my lord she is so frigging irritating! I don't think we're supposed to like her though, because Veronica sure doesn't. But she's just repellent in every single way. I have no problem with the actress, but the character is horrible. Every time you think she's going to start being nice she goes right back to being a mega-bitch. If they want to make her redeeming, I'm open to changing my opinion of her, but right now, all she's doing is sucking screentime away from characters I enjoy, and I'm not happy with it.

Now on to "Lost". I have absolutely zero problem with Michelle Rodriguez as an actress. Unlike some people, I think she's pretty talented. I was looking forward to her character after the brief scene in last year's season finale. I was intrigued by her. The character, however, is rubbing me the wrong way. I don't flat out hate her, and again, I think there is a lot of room for her character to be redeemed, but right now, I think she's a bit too much of a bitch. Again, I have not one problem with Michelle Rodriguez, but the character itself (much like Charlie--I LOVE Dom and HATE Charlie!).

I don't think I'm being unfair about this either because I really don't have the "Hate all new characters!" mentality. I REALLY like Mr. Eko, Libby, and Bernard, and cannot wait to see more of those three characters.

I do think that a lot of people aren't giving these characters a chance before they judge them, but in the case of Ana-Lucia (or Jackie on VM), I've seen enough already to know they aren't going to be favorites of mine.

I totally agree with you that the bashing of the ACTORS playing these roles needs to stop like right now. Because that's just not cool!
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ChicaFrom3 · Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 10:04 pm Post subject:

I get and respect where you're coming from, but it's not just a "bash all new characters!" mentality. I detest Ana-Lucia (my hatred has dimmed somewhat but not enough), but I adore Eko, Bernard, Libby, and, of course, Desmond. *love* Ana-Lucia just rubs me the wrong way. Got nothing to do with the actor as I've never seen MR in anything else.
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lostcalier · Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 10:30 pm Post subject:

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Here here LC! Although I do not watch ALIAS, I have been a "fan" of Balthazar Getty's since his performance as Ralph in Lord of the Flies (which I still maintain every LOST fan should read/watch). And those of you who frequent the forums know my stance on Ana Lucia.
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Enchirito · Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 4:58 am Post subject:

wow, i guess I'm glad I'm not part of these other fandoms. That sounds terrible. Maybe Lost fans a just a little more intelligent than the rest?

As for Lost, heres my opinion on the new chars:

Anna: I have to say, her acting really improved this episode - probably because she was given more than one-liners. Some actors are very good with one-liners and some are not.

Bernard: poor old guy, i feel for him. great acting so far by this dude, and who couldn't like him, really?

Libby: Great addition to lost! She seems very real to me and I really think her character can bring a lot to Lost.

Eko: So cool. He's a unique take on the classic compassionate big guy that you always want on your side. Very good idea bringing him into the story.

Dear Lost Writers,
Can we have sides now? You know, two groups in conflict with each other, each having their own view? That would be awesome.
Thanks,
-E
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Polarbear · Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 5:07 am Post subject:

It's Ana Lucia by the way. Sorry that was buggin me lol

Okay I always stood up for her when people said Michelle Rodriguez was an awful actress etc. She was trying to break up Jate! lol from the bar scene. I always said we know zitch about her from those few minutes we should give her a chance.

Honestly she has been in what? four episodes now and she has featured heavily in all of them. I think we can start hating her now and have very good reason for doing so.

I hated Mr Eko at the start aswell cause he was just a big brute with a stick and beat up the rafteees. Now I love him though he has shown he cares about other people he may not even know which is a very good character trait to have something Ana doesn't. I am undecided over Libby and Bernard. They have good potential though especially Libby from reading her bio that was released a while back.Cindy was really irritating me. She always seemed to want to run away even though Sawyer was badly injured. She came across as something of a jittery rabbit from Watership Down. It really didn't go down well with me. I preferred her when she had a bit of backbone and good humor on the plane with Jack.
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Hobbes · Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:21 am Post subject:

Well I ated Ana Lucia from the beginning, but only beacause the character was written in a way to annoy me. It was probably even intentional by the writers to make her very unbearable at first, then show her side of the story, and feel so guilty that you hated her that you suddenly start liking her

Well with this latest ep, I'm neutral with her, don't love don't hate, just like any other of the characters I find too boring to bother with, like Micheal, Jack, and Sun and Jin (when they're seperate that is). As for the rest of the newbies, I love all of them! Eko could be the next Locke, and I feel guilty about my near abandonment, because Locke is still one freaking amazing character. Libby's really cool, and Bernard's that little bit of innocence on the show, lol. I hoped Arzt would stay for the next season (well, before he got really annoying 10 minutes before he died, that is) and I was actually hoping they could do a total cast reshuffle for the focus of season 2, since introducing new characters is definitely one thing Lost does DAMN WELL.

So anyway, you won't find any new-character bashing from me.

lostzilla · Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:38 am Post subject:

I dont hate anyone. hate is for pussies. LMAO
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remember the convo on msn a little bit ago Nate? you ARE a pussy not in the brit way either

lostzilla · Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:41 am Post subject:

LOL in the fic.
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