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Brooke
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:37 pm    Post subject: Additive Dissolve Reply with quote

Hi, I was wondering if you could help me.

I don't know how to word this, so I apologize.

I have seen many videos who use the Additive dissolve and it looks great. Their scenes flash on the correct beat and it's beautiful.

I try it and it looks not only cut up but sloppy and it also forces my video that I have cut in certian places to expand and a piece of the clip I didn't want is back into the scene flashing.

I don't know how to correctly use the additive dissolve the way that I want.

So the scenes that I have chosen the beat do not flash and they flash in weird places some of them are a richer dissolve then the others.


Am I doing something wrong?

Any pointers anyone can share with me would be appreciated thank you.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Addictive dissolve can look messy you have to be careful with it. It always looks good when the shot is similar to the last one so if you are cutting into a scene it's perfect. It also tends to look good when you have one stationary shot and one moving shot. Hope that helps.
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Brooke
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
Addictive dissolve can look messy you have to be careful with it. It always looks good when the shot is similar to the last one so if you are cutting into a scene it's perfect. It also tends to look good when you have one stationary shot and one moving shot. Hope that helps.


I often use too long of clips for 'scenes' and I have people tell me (Which is great feedback by the way) that it was too drawn out. So someone told me to use the beat of the music, is it possible to use the same scene and just cut that up and use additive dissolve?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh yeah using the beat of the music is very important. Hit that beat in the middle of the addictive dissolve transition and even messy shots you can get away with I don't think it really works just transitioning into the same shot it's always good to have some movement in there so cut the clip in two and zoom in or out and it will look cool or make sure the next clip has some heavy camera movement in it.
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Brooke
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
Oh yeah using the beat of the music is very important. Hit that beat in the middle of the addictive dissolve transition and even messy shots you can get away with I don't think it really works just transitioning into the same shot it's always good to have some movement in there so cut the clip in two and zoom in or out and it will look cool or make sure the next clip has some heavy camera movement in it.


I am sorry I am still wobbly with Sony Vegas what do you mean by this?
Hit that beat in the middle of the addictive dissolve transition and even messy shots you can get away with
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol wobbly.. well just pay attention (with your eyes and ears) to the audio track of the mp3 and pick out where the big beat is. This is usually pretty easy to do cause there will be a rather large high peak at that point. You need this peak to be in the middle point of the addictive dissolve for it to hit the beat perfect.
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Brooke
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
lol wobbly.. well just pay attention (with your eyes and ears) to the audio track of the mp3 and pick out where the big beat is. This is usually pretty easy to do cause there will be a rather large high peak at that point. You need this peak to be in the middle point of the addictive dissolve for it to hit the beat perfect.


Thank you. I did not know this, until now. I always thought it had to be at the first part of it. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've found that some times I have to put the effect or transition just a little bit before the beat because right on it seems to make it look like the visual element happened a bit too late. It all depends on each vid and the song, I suppose!

I've also found that you can use additive dissolve to give you a nice flash on a beat within one clip. So if you have a clip that runs over the beat that you want to use, you can split the clip then extend the first part forward over the second (or the second part back over the first) without moving either clip, then put the additive dissolve transition on where they overlap and it can give a nice effect that's a little different than just the standard white flash transition. Plus it works without having to change scenes. It all depends on what you're looking for in that particular vid.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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a piece of the clip I didn't want is back into the scene flashing.


By this do you mean as it's transitioning, instead of it going straight to a shot of Sawyer (example), the scene that was before the shot of Sawyer is still there?

If so, I find that wherever possible, I cut a bit off the beginning and end of the clip I'm about to use, to help avoid that. And to check I've cut enough off, I put it next to the last clip of the vid, add a transition and use the arrow key to go through the transition slowly making sure it goes straight to the scene I want. Hope that makes sense.

As for hitting the beat... to find the beat, I keep playing the part of the song that has said beat (keep clicking the play button), and it's fairly easy to pick it up. And as Polarbear mentioned, on a lot of beats the peaks are quite high so it's easy to spot them.
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