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Im1oftheOceanic6 Expert Vidder

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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 5:12 am Post subject: Need Help with Split Screen Effect in Sony Vegas |
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I read the Sony Vegas help thread and the piece on the split screen effect but I'm still having some trouble getting the clips positioned correctly.
I used pan/crop and cookie cutter to place the scene of Jack waking in the jungle on the left and Ana in the ocean on the right.But when I used pan/crop I lost the right side of the Ana clip and the left side of the Jack clip and this often results in losing the important part of the clip.In one section Ana disappears from the clip and all I have is ocean.I encounter this problem quite a bit when I try to use split screen effects.
Is there any way to keep an entire clip intact but move it to the left or right side of the screen?Is there a certain screen size I need to set?
I'm using Sony Vegas Movie Studio 8 for the video.However if there is a better way to do the split screen effect in another version,I'd be willing to download that version form Sony's site.
I'm just not sure what I'm doing wrong with my editing.I was starting to get frustrated with the program.
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Aislynn Council Member
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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 5:21 am Post subject: |
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You should be able to position the clips however you need them by moving them with the pan/crop tool. So let's say the clip on the bottom is the one with Ana in it. The one above it is the one that has Jack on it. You use the cookie cutter in order to isolate Jack so that it looks like he's on the left side of the screen. But unfortunately Ana is already on the left side of the screen so the clip of Jack is covering her up.
What you can do is open the pan/crop tool on Ana's clip and put your cursor inside the dotted line outlining your image. When the cursor changes to an arrow pointing in four directions, you should be able to click and drag it so that Ana on the left side of her own clip is now over on the right side of the screen. You should be able to see how it's looking by keeping an eye on the preview window while you move the clip. You'll want to be careful of pulling it to far and thus seeing the black edge beyond the clip. Hopefully, you'll be able to get Ana placed where you need her and keep the edge of her clip tucked in under Jack's.
If it doesn't seem to be working right, then zoom in a bit on Ana while you've got the pan/crop tool open and that should help keep those edges from showing.
Is that sort of what you're talking about wanting it to do?  |
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Im1oftheOceanic6 Expert Vidder

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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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The way you described sounds like how I've been editing the clips.My biggest problem has been not so much with the clips covering each other but with the clips running outside of the screen.
I made this so you can see how my clips look to start with and what they end up looking like when edited to a split screen.
http://www.mediafire.com/?i7ot92ruiei7z97
You can see how with the island clip , I lose alot of the picture when the screen cuts it off.Is it just inevitable that when you do a split screen you have to lose at least part of the image?
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Aislynn Council Member
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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, thanks for doing that, it's really helpful to actually see what you're talking about!
Im1oftheOceanic6 wrote: | You can see how with the island clip , I lose alot of the picture when the screen cuts it off.Is it just inevitable that when you do a split screen you have to lose at least part of the image? |
Yep, you've got it right there. If you leave the clips their original size, then you can't fit another scene of that same size into the same space without having to give up some of the image. You could use the pan/crop tool to zoom out on the clips, making them smaller in overall size so they could fit on the same screen but then the images in them would get correspondingly smaller and you'd have to figure out a way to lay them onto the screen so you could see them both. (This is actually often done as an artistic effect. Besides vids, you see this a lot in shows like CSI: Miami. )
My suggestion (unless, of course, you like the look of both shots being smaller) is to just use the pan/crop tool to place each piece so that you see the important part of the clip. If you should need something from both sides of one clip, like say if you want to show Vincent's clip on the left of the screen, then you want to see the left side of the beach and the person in the water on the right, you can double the beach clip and set the pan/crop to show the left side on one and to show the right side on the other, so that you can cut from one to the other while still seeing Vincent's clip. Does that make sense?
You could also use the pan/crop tool to scan straight across the clip from left to right. Basically it's just a matter of finding what particular editing trick works best for the look you want to achieve.  |
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Im1oftheOceanic6 Expert Vidder

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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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I like the idea of maybe using pan/crop to scan across the image.I'd never thought of that.That would be really good for scenes like that island shot.
I think I understand what you mean by doubling the clip.(Put the same clip on 2 tracks but edit one clip to show the left side and edit the other to show the right side, then alternate between them. Correct?)
Thank you for the help.
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Aislynn Council Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 6:54 am Post subject: |
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Im1oftheOceanic6 wrote: | I like the idea of maybe using pan/crop to scan across the image.I'd never thought of that.That would be really good for scenes like that island shot. |
Yeah, the pan/crop is really handy for things like that, it gives you an interesting sort of motion (you just have to watch that it doesn't sort of wobble off the clip so that you see the edges at the top or bottom if you can help it). Sometimes I find it best to go ahead and zoom in just a little bit so that as you move from left to right (or vice versa ) you don't have to worry about the edges showing.
Im1oftheOceanic6 wrote: | I think I understand what you mean by doubling the clip.(Put the same clip on 2 tracks but edit one clip to show the left side and edit the other to show the right side, then alternate between them. Correct?) |
What I would do, since I have a limited number of tracks like you do in Movie Studio, is just treat the clip as two separate clips after you've doubled them. Set up the pan/crop on the one like you want it, then set up the pan/crop on the second like you want it, then just put them one after the other on the same timeline. That should do the trick.  |
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Im1oftheOceanic6 Expert Vidder

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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you for the advice.
If I do a split screen and use pan/crop to scan across one of the clips,than the clip I scan across should be on the lower video track,right?(That way when I scan across it, it doesn't cover up the other clip.)
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Aislynn Council Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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Yep, that should work! And you're welcome; hope we get to see your vid soon!  |
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