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Jemmz Council Member
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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Lost gets even more surreal everytime I watch it. Still reeling from it. Some of it was ridiculous, such as the "Island Moving Device" which I had expected to be more complex But still, amazing. There were some pretty awful scenes like the freighter blowing up and Ben stabbing Keamy even though he had it coming but even so, too brutal for me thanks. Oh Michael and Jin, I love you both please don't die!!!!1111one1 I want to give Sun a huge hug. Spectacular acting, I was bawling my eyes out throughout. Poor, poor Sun. I cried so much I feel like making a Jun vid now ^^, But even if Jin is alive, he'd be drifting hopelessly in the sea. I wonder what has become of Daniel and the other randoms on the boat. Please nothing happen to DANIEL! I hope they find Jin and Michael and make it alive somewhere. I love it when they're all split up and so many different things are happening at the same time. I was loving this episode until the boat blew up. All those people Michael and Jin please be safe Someone hates the B-Team.
ALTHOUGH, Desmond gets his happy ending. Lucky him. Gorgeous scene. Much love for Despenny! VIDS,PLZ. I just feel bad that not everyone got their happy ending. Jack tried to save everyone and he ended up killing most of them T_T Okay, well not him specifically. But it's still sad. *sigh*
I loved that they continued Jack's FF at the beginning. The moment where Kate puts on the breaks and Jack's like xD
Oh Claire, why didn't you tell Kate to stuff it. Aaron's your son not hers T_T I do not feel any better about Kate raising Aaron. Infact I feel worse for poor Claire now.
I got spoiled about the Sawyer scene T_T I got spoiled for alot of things this ep and I've hardly been home a whole day >_< Anywho, It was brave of him but it's not like he died or anything.
WTF, Charlotte was born on the island? O.o Cute Charladay scene though. I definitely ship them more now.
I don't like that Hurley was playing chess with Mr. Eko. Charlie's appearance seems less special and significant now and Hurley just comes off as crazy.
If all Kate promised to do for Sawyer was find his daughter then why couldn't she just tell Jack? Another thing they built up that wasn't all too amazing.
I liked the scene with Juliet and Sawyer where they get that realisation that the boat is on fire and it's just so angsty. I think I might ship Suliet a little
-I agree with Karolina that the coffin scene was lame. Alot of us already knew it was Locke. I wasn't too sure when the time came but still, I don't care that it was Locke. I would like to know though what horrible things happened, how he got off the island and how he died.
FF Sun is hardcore xD She's like a spy or something O.o
The island disappearing (which I might have to watch again):
BIGGEST. WTF. MOMENT. EVERRRR. I was just waiting for someone to swear but no one even muttered a "Omg!" It's a little too weird yeah but still WTF??? Where will Daniel and the others go?? Where have the people on the island gone?? What's happened with Claire? I want answers, but I guess I don't mind the wait at all. It'll probably go by quickly. In the mean time I can catch up with my other fandoms
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Lostwithoutdom Expert Vidder

Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 4708 Location: Philadelphia, Pa
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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Omg I just thought of something.
You know how Ben said that they ALL need to go back. Including Locke who is apparently "dead". Do you think that ALL includes Charlie?? I know he died on the island, but he's appeared to other people off of it.
I'm probably just grasping at straws here but, idk it could be a possibility... right??  _________________ Morgan
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think so because Charlie's sorta still..."there" isn't he. Oh! But actually he isn't now! I just realised he's probably not gone with the island, he's just randomly in the middle of the ocean  |
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Lostwithoutdom Expert Vidder

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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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awww yeah i guess you're right. It was worth a shot. lol I'm still trying to find a way for them to bring him back. but so far... no luck.  _________________ Morgan
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Lost-majs Expert Vidder

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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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wolffootball37 wrote: | ooangeliceviloo wrote: | I was real disappointed with Jack's attitude in the Finale.
Especially when they were on the liferaft and Hurley said "He did it" and Jack said "No he didn't."
I mean...come ON...you can't have your head that far up your own ass and beliefs.
I just flat out did not like him in the Finale, and I hope he redeems himself, because I still like the character, but hated his attitude. Seeing is believing, Jack...where the hell did it go then? |
I think Jack is more stubborn than closed minded. He wants to defy Locke. Hes had a serious grudge against him ever since Boone died. So whatever Locke says, Jack will think the opposite, even when the whole island dissapers.
Okay heres my theory. The Island didnt really "move" physically. It moved through time. Remember when Locke watched the video. Dr. wikman or whoever said the bunny would appear to have dissapered but that wasnt the case and then it cut off. SOOOO im thinking the island will not appear till some time in the future because it just moved in time. Make any since? |
That could explain why the Black Rock is there on the island! Someone moved the island but the Black Rock was there back in time and then it was in on the island.
Okay, I’m not great at English so maybe it doesn’t make any sinse? Lol  |
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wolffootball37 Expert Vidder

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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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Lost-majs wrote: | wolffootball37 wrote: | ooangeliceviloo wrote: | I was real disappointed with Jack's attitude in the Finale.
Especially when they were on the liferaft and Hurley said "He did it" and Jack said "No he didn't."
I mean...come ON...you can't have your head that far up your own ass and beliefs.
I just flat out did not like him in the Finale, and I hope he redeems himself, because I still like the character, but hated his attitude. Seeing is believing, Jack...where the hell did it go then? |
I think Jack is more stubborn than closed minded. He wants to defy Locke. Hes had a serious grudge against him ever since Boone died. So whatever Locke says, Jack will think the opposite, even when the whole island dissapers.
Okay heres my theory. The Island didnt really "move" physically. It moved through time. Remember when Locke watched the video. Dr. wikman or whoever said the bunny would appear to have dissapered but that wasnt the case and then it cut off. SOOOO im thinking the island will not appear till some time in the future because it just moved in time. Make any since? |
That could explain why the Black Rock is there on the island! Someone moved the island but the Black Rock was there back in time and then it was in on the island.
Okay, I’m not great at English so maybe it doesn’t make any sinse? Lol  |
No that made perfect since. Thats a very interesting and cool theory! Ive never thought of that! It would make since though!!! |
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HobbitRockGod Expert Vidder

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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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I do feel so bad for Claire...the fact that she looked so sad when she was looking at Aaron made me want to cry! I'm sure when Kate goes back to the island, Claire will be uberly pissed that she brought Aaron back, then reclaim her son...because I think she'd be a better mom for him...*ducks*
That is a cool theory, Majs...I think I understand what you mean, that's really interesting!
I also think Jin is alive, and possibly Michael...who knows what Christian was doing in there? Maybe he transported Michael back to the island to live in Jacob's hut with him and Claire.  _________________
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SassyLostie2 Expert Vidder

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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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I'm pretty sure Michael's dead. Christian was in there telling him that he could "go now" meaning the island would let him die. In his last episode, he was trying to commit suicide, but it "wasn't his time", and then when he tried to make the bomb go off, it still "wasn't time". So now, Christian was saying that it was time for him. That's the way that I saw it anyway. _________________
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LordXwee Advanced Vidder

Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 366 Location: Having a tea party in Jacob's cabin
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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When Kate was there with Claire, I was waiting for Claire to shoot lasers out of her eyes or tackle Kate or something. The moment was so creepy. _________________
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Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 11211 Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:45 am Post subject: |
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Best season.
Season 1 was not this good.
OMFWTFLOCKEBBQSAUCE!!    
I've never been so sad to be so right. I always thought it was Locke - until Paul convinced me that it was probably Micheal, that is . That would have been the "cheap" option for Lost to take - kill someone nobody cares about, who wouldn't make THAT much of a difference, but would make sense. But Locke being the one in the coffin instead... woah. Now that's a *real* death .
Poor guy... The obituary article that Jack read way back in season 3 sounded like they found him hanging from a rafter. And his funeral... where nobody even bothered to show up... *sniff*
It's gorgeous though. Poetic. He's the big cheese, the leader of the island, and yet - he ends up dying all alone, dejected and away from the island. *sniff*
Unless it was murder, which is even more intriguing
Still, I'm looking forward to next season, aka "Locke's season" - where we get to find out what all that bad stuff is that happened to Locke and co on the island, while meanwhile the Oceanic 6 try to get back in the sections we have previously liked to refer to as "flashforwards".
AND, once they get his body back there, he's SURE to be re-animated - so I'm sure I'll still get my Locke fill these next seasons heheh.
OMG, so good, the rest of this ep. I loves it.
Keamie battle = wow, Sayid is amazing. Totally called Keamie not dying though.
Keamie x2 = Ben TOTALLY killed him because he wanted to blow up the freighter (in ADDITION to it being about Alex). His speal to Locke about being bad at separating emotion from practical was a criticism of Locke, not himself. He couldn't let the freighter people get off the island, knowing what they knew.
Charlotte born on island? interesting.
Miles?!? YES! He's going to be the goddamn BEST character next season haha. Can't WAIT!
SAWYER = OTP. Yeah, he doesn't even NEED a pairing he's THAT good.
Sawyer and Jack totally switched places. Jack was a total selfish moron this ep, "on island" and off. Like his denial of the island being moved . Sad. Hurley got it right: "you got a better explanation?"
And Sawyer??? OMG. I can't wait for next season. The island with just Locke, Sawyer, Juliette (ok, not my best pick. But I actually liked her slightly THIS ep. Without Jack she's MUCH better), Claire, Charlotte and Miles will be SWEET.
Jin can't be dead. We didn't see him die! That's like... tv rules!
He may have had enough time to jump off... right?
But then, where would he go? Obviously he didn't make it off the island.. and the island disappeared before he could reasonably get back. Hmmm
Oh, and Micheal was awesome. I loved the whole Christian thing saying "you can go now". Gorgeous.
Two things I am confused about though:
1. Wtf happens to Dan and the red shirts? They can't get off the island, or else those redshirts would be part of the Oceanic 6. Were they perhaps still warped along with the island...? I'm confused.
2. Jack's fake story said 8 people made it to that fake uninhabited island, and only 6 made it back to the mainland. Wtf happened to those last 2? Did Lost just decide to forget about that..?
Ben moved the island! Poor guy . I absolutely love Ben. And he was practically crying... *sniff*. I just love him.
Actually, I kinda loved everyone this ep. I kinda loved Lost. I kinda loved TV. That's a good feeling.
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IntoTheVoid Expert Vidder

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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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SassyLostie2 wrote: | I'm pretty sure Michael's dead. Christian was in there telling him that he could "go now" meaning the island would let him die. In his last episode, he was trying to commit suicide, but it "wasn't his time", and then when he tried to make the bomb go off, it still "wasn't time". So now, Christian was saying that it was time for him. That's the way that I saw it anyway. |
Yeah I agree, "You can go now." was Cristians/Jacobs/the island's/WHOEVER's way of saying "NOW we'll let you die." _________________
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She does genuinely love him.
And she knows that he would take excellent care of her." - Damon Lindelof |
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IamSoLostRightNow Expert Vidder

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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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I think Michael is dead too, which totally sux. There was all this hype about bringing him back, but than he didn't get to do much and Walt never got to see Michael redeem himself. All Michael ever wanted was to be a good father and it looks like he'll never get the chance.
I'm even more distraught over Jin. I am CONVINCED he's not dead. I just can't picture it. I believe that he'll be able to make it to Faraday's raft and survive.
It is interesting though where the F are those people on the Zodiac suppose to go?
I also loved Juliet just sitting on the beach a la Desmond drinking Dharma rum. I would totally do the same if I were her and watching my ticket off blow up for the second time in a row. Plus if shirtless Sawyer came walking out of the water I'd be like "Aww, F*** it!" and have sex right there! I really wouldn't mind some Sulliet action next season.
Although can I say that this last episode made me an ultimate believer in Surley? OMG SAWYER + HUGO = OTP!!!
I am all lined up to hate Jack next season, which really sux because he is my favorite character. He's just not the same.
I SQUEED for DesPenny! I am sooo happy for them!
This Finale was really awesome. The ending wasn't as game changing as the last 3 seasons, but that's because the flashfowards told us what was going to happen. But I'm not at all disappointed. So much amazing action still took place and I did get a lot of answers. I was very satisfied. _________________
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DrPepper Intermediate Vidder

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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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Lost-majs wrote: | wolffootball37 wrote: | ooangeliceviloo wrote: | I was real disappointed with Jack's attitude in the Finale.
Especially when they were on the liferaft and Hurley said "He did it" and Jack said "No he didn't."
I mean...come ON...you can't have your head that far up your own ass and beliefs.
I just flat out did not like him in the Finale, and I hope he redeems himself, because I still like the character, but hated his attitude. Seeing is believing, Jack...where the hell did it go then? |
I think Jack is more stubborn than closed minded. He wants to defy Locke. Hes had a serious grudge against him ever since Boone died. So whatever Locke says, Jack will think the opposite, even when the whole island dissapers.
Okay heres my theory. The Island didnt really "move" physically. It moved through time. Remember when Locke watched the video. Dr. wikman or whoever said the bunny would appear to have dissapered but that wasnt the case and then it cut off. SOOOO im thinking the island will not appear till some time in the future because it just moved in time. Make any since? |
That could explain why the Black Rock is there on the island! Someone moved the island but the Black Rock was there back in time and then it was in on the island.
Okay, I’m not great at English so maybe it doesn’t make any sinse? Lol  |
lol imagine their faces xD One minute they're on the water, fishing or something and then the next minute they're in the middle of a jungle on an uninhabited island, looking like that: "WTF?!! "
First of all: I like the theory that the island didn't really disappeared but traveled through time.
Do u remeber the episode when Charlotte has found an icebear in the middle of the sahara? (i don't really know whether it was the sahara or not, but it doesn't matter ^^). maybe it has sth. to do with the time-travelling ....
The episode:
Well, the episode was great. I've read the whole 7 pages now and i totally agree with you: IT'S ONE OF THE BEST EPISODES EVER!!!!
Jin: In some way it's just TOO obvious that he's dead. I mean they made clear that he's dead twice: when the ship blew up and when Sun/Hugo visited his grave. Why would they do that? I believe he appeares one day or other. I HOPE SO! They've gone through so much, it would suck when he's dead
Jack: Yeah, he changed totally!!! He was kinda selfish in this ep. I didn't like him since the episode when he pulled the trigger -.-
Sun: Great acting!!!
Sawyer: hero! I SO knew he'd jump. It was obvious he kick's ass
Locke: Yeah, finally he's the new leader of the Island's tribe. I love it!!!!!
Michael: I liked Michael. He always wanted the best for his son. They've gone through so much (like Jin and Sun ^^) and now Michael is dead. So sad, isn't it? =( _________________
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IamSoLostRightNow Expert Vidder

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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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You know now when I think about it, when i comes to finale's Sawyer has always been the hero and Jack has always been a bit of a prick.
Season 1: All Jack did was argue with Locke. Mean while Sawyer dove off the raft in order to retrive the rudder that broke off. He saved them all. Michael said to him "Either your a true hero or you want to die" I think in the first season finale Sawyer wanted to die (He said "I'm no hero") But in the season 4 finale he had fully developed into the hero.
Season 2: Jack lied and led to group right into Michael's trap. When the other's ambushed them Jack only thought about saving Kate, but what about everybody else?
Season 3: Jack lead everyone to the radio tower (I can't get too mad at that). But it was Sawyer who volunteered to go back to the beach and save Sayid, Jin, and Bernard when Jack's plan didn't work.
Season 4: Jack is still having the same stubborn argument with Locke. He says he want to get everyone rescued, when really he only cares about Kate. Sawyer is selfless again and jumps out of the helicopter in order to save all the people on board.
That being said I only half believe what I wrote. I still love Jack as a Character. He truly means well and really does want to save EVERYONE. Stuff just never seems to work out in his favor.  _________________
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IntoTheVoid Expert Vidder

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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:44 am Post subject: |
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I get that it was Sawyer's "moment" or whatever but I dont think that makes him the de facto hero of the show.
I think alot of people are forgetting all the good Jack has done on the island, and are just looking at his arguments with people instead.
I think people have either forgot, or are just choosing not to mention that Jack did save Desmond's life in the finale afterall. If he hadnt brought him back to life, alot of people would've been pissed that he'd have died. _________________
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She does genuinely love him.
And she knows that he would take excellent care of her." - Damon Lindelof |
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