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Aislynn
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:55 pm    Post subject: 3x04 - Every Man For Himself Episode Discussion

A Sawyer ep!!!!

Episode description:

[spoiler:0afe7be935]The Others prevent Sawyer and Kate from escaping, leaving Sawyer perplexed by the extent of the measures taken to keep them imprisoned. Jack is asked to use his medical training to save the life of one of the Others. At the beach, Desmond's strange behavior attracts attention. He begins to construct a mysterious device.[/spoiler:0afe7be935]

Please remember to use spoiler tags until the episode has aired and for referring to future episodes. Thanks!

[spoiler:0afe7be935]I hope there are no tree frogs in this one! [/spoiler:0afe7be935]


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Rocksiren
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:59 pm    

[spoiler:be92a792b9]You know I would really hate it if they "made us" "hate" Sawyer again...Im so sick of that.[/spoiler:be92a792b9]
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IntoTheVoid
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:36 pm    

[spoiler:03b3f90258] I know. I just started to like him after the whole 'tree frog' incident' (i'm a sucker for little creatures ) so I hope they don't make me think "what an ass" again [/spoiler:03b3f90258]
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Spiral Static
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:23 pm    

[spoiler:81bdf85360]Yeah. Badass Sawyer is great. But I don't like Complete-Douchebag-For-No-Reason Sawyer. I hope he doesn't go all sweet and fuzzy in this episode though, cause that's where they seem to be heading with him.[/spoiler:81bdf85360]
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IntoTheVoid
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:50 pm    

[spoiler:44e275df30]I liked Badass Sawyer in Season 1, but season 2 made me kinda not like him in a few episodes. Hope they don't make me skip scenes with him in it.. again.[/spoiler:44e275df30]
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PsychoCynic
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 9:00 pm    

[spoiler:20cd557e78]I also adore Badass Sawyer. *drools* And, hell, I even loved him in "The Long Con." Anyway, I don't think the writers will "make" us hate him in this episode because he's being tortured. If anything, they'll probably "make" us sympatize with him or pity him, at the least ... I think. [/spoiler:20cd557e78]
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IntoTheVoid
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 9:12 pm    

[spoiler:fde021aa83]Thats true. His flashbacks might be sad ones. Afterall, a spoiler did say that we will look at Sawyer differently. Maybe they'll be like Jacks and make us wanna give him a big hug at the end [/spoiler:fde021aa83]
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Spiral Static
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 9:34 pm    

[spoiler:20638c4d00]At the end of Jack's last flashback I wanted to drown him.[/spoiler:20638c4d00]
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IntoTheVoid
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:20 pm    

[spoiler:187823a35e]LMFAO!! I Felt SO sorry for him! Come on SS, you're telling me that when he said "Is she happy?" Your eye brows didn't raise and you didnt frown in sadness?! [/spoiler:187823a35e]
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Spiral Static
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 11:31 pm    

[spoiler:b076265886]Meh. I would have asked for the name of the guy.
No, he's cute & cuddly. But that flashback bored the hell out of me.[/spoiler:b076265886]
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Aislynn
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 11:37 pm    

I'm going to SO be in here reading about this ep as soon as it airs somewhere... So be sure to post about the ep when you see it!

*does Jedi mind trick so Warren doesn't remember he just read about her asking for spoilers*

"These aren't the droids you're looking for. Move along. Move along."

Oh and this whole above conversation between y'all has totally had me giggling...
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Spiral Static
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:26 am    

This is what LostForJate has posted up on LF, about what's happend so far:

[spoiler:3e55ce89fa]Des on beach watching Claire and Aaron,tells Claire she has a problem with her roof...she should move...Charlie says he'll fix it.
Des leaves ,Claire wants to know what that was all about,charlie says he needs another button to push...


jacks cell,juliet asks how he's doing.
jack asks if he should talk to ben...juliet says he won't tell jack anything.
jack says ben would have let her die...juliet says she doesn't answer to ben.
juliet is called away because they have a "situation"

sawyer is told it's time to work.
ben,juliet arrive ...we see colleen?the girl who was shot,
sawyer figures that our team did it and smiles...sawyer thinks they just got their ticket out of there..

Sawyer trying to figure out how the food thing in his cage is working,
sawyer says pickett is distracted at the moment,he sets a trap because there is electricity coming in...kate says he'll get electricuted.
kate says what about jack...sawyer says it's everyman for himself..

flashback-jail,sawyer watching guys fighting .Sawyer calls the warden a son of a bitch.
sawyer talks to a guy about the warden buttering him up .
sawyer says he hates the warden and that the warden will probably try to steal money from new guy.
warden obviously dislikes sawyer.


sawyer sees ben coming and almost steps into the trap but doesn't...he wants to know how much sawyer weighs and how old he is.
sawyers little trap doesn't work,ben turned it off...ben begins beating sawyer...

sawyer wakes up tied up,,they put somthing in his mouth sawyer continues to try to yell.
jack hears sawyer(i think anyway!)
they inject a needle,[/spoiler:3e55ce89fa]

I really shouldn't have read it, I'm totally ruining the episode for myself.


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Woah.
[spoiler:3e55ce89fa]SAWYER HAS A DAUGHTER[/spoiler:3e55ce89fa]

Oh my.
That's on of the biggest shocks I've had from this show in a long time.
Although, when you think about it. It's hardly suprising.
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cylune
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 1:08 am    

I love being Canadian!! We get to see the episode an hour before anyone else!

That was good!

[spoiler:8b264f856a]
Desmond is my Hero. And Sawyer cared about his dauther. awwwwwww!!!!!!!![/spoiler:8b264f856a]
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Rocksiren
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:05 am    

Okay not using spoilers in here... Im sorry! The show has been aired in at least 3 countries. Its free roaming fun now!
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Okay my thoughts:

1.) My mom and I called the pacemaker thing right away. Why else would they give him a watch? Also, theres no WAY he would be that agile after getting ANY kind of operation! I had my gallbladder taken out and I was down for the count for DAYS! Im not a doctor, but wouldnt they have to crack his chest open to get to the heart?

2.) Are you Desmond and Claire people going NUTS right now or what? I am ALL about it! Charlie is being such an ass!

3.) Loved Jack being a smart ass.

4.) When they brought the bunny in (NOT funny by the way) i thought it was going to be like "The Island of Dr. Moreau" and they were going to turn Sawyer into a half man, half bunny. By the way, when he was shaking the cage, I thought he was trying to get the rabbit to poop on him or something. Also, that rabbit wouldve peed and pooped out of shock before it died.

5.) Are you kidding? So even mild extertion would cause him to die? What about all the labor they had him doing?

6.) Would it have killed Kate to at least not say anything about the love part? Also its obvious she does care for him; she got back in the cage!

7.) Havent they figured out they are being watched yet?

8.) I dont care, Julia and Benry and Pickett are nutcases.

9.) Can someone please explain to me:
a.) the Desmond, lightning-rod thing...???
b.) wha? the warden??? At the end???

10.) This is the only episode since "Do No Harm" where Ive felt like vomiting out of nerves.

11.) And just a note: Did the Patridge family bus crash there too? What the HELL was with those clothes?
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cylune
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:13 am    

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9.) Can someone please explain to me:
a.) the Desmond, lightning-rod thing...???


[spoiler:9cba499fbc]a) Desmond can see into the future (like he saw Locke's speach) he probalby saw that Claire's tent was going to get hit by lightning so he build that lightning-rod to protect them. In a way, he saved Aaron, Claire and Charlie's life. I'll bet Charlie will be really nice to Desmond in the future. [/spoiler:9cba499fbc]


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