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xgene
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:41 pm    Post subject: Sinners and Saints

Alright, I don't know if this is the right place to post this so forgive me if I wasn't suppose to post this here.

To the point- I'm working on a new vid and I'm trying to devide the castaways into "Sinners" and "Saints". I need at least 8 Sinners and 8 Saints. They need to be the actual people on the island (no flashback peeps), basically the core group of survivors both living and dead. Please, I need any constructive input. Thanks
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Spiral Static
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 3:04 pm    

Well, you could really make any of them out to be sinners or saints really. Because they all have something that they've done wrong, but have also done nicer things.
But, without thinking too deeply into it, here's what I would say:

Sinners:
Kate - Killed 2 people.
Sawyer - Killed a man.
Sayid - Torturer.
Jin - That thing he did. I forget.
Eko - Drugs etc.
Ana Lucia - Shot somebody etc.
Michael - Because he's Michael.
Charlie - Drugs. And baby kidnapping. And Sun stealing.

Saints
Sun - Meh.
Jack - He's a prick sometimes. But he's okay.
Locke - Can get a little crazy, but other than that not too bad.
Boone - He went into the plane and died trying to rescue them.
Shannon - She didn't really do anything. Good or bad.
Walt - He's only little.
Libby - She didn't really live long enough to do anything bad.
Claire - ...
Hurley - ...

Most of the people that I have put as 'Saints' are there simply because they haven't done anything that I would say really is partcularly bad .. YET. But, they could all be argued as sinners when you really think about it.
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KajaM
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 3:45 pm    

I agree with the list above. You can add these, although they're not the core group anymore:

Sinners:
Ethan
Henry
Mr. Friendly
Goodwin

--> they say they're the good guys, but in fact they did some bad stuff (killing poeple, kidnapping people, making some weird tests on people..)

Saints:
Rose
Bernard
Desmond
Alex (seems to be the only good person among the Others so far)
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mistojen
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 1:43 am    

Spiral Static wrote:

Michael - Because he's Michael.


I laughed out loud on this one. Nice work!

I have to agree with all of that list, although Shannon could go either way, if you ask me. She might not have done anything like...Kate or Sawyer has, but she did lie, steal, and cheat to get what she wanted, especially when it came to her dad's money after he died. Not exactly saintly or admirable...
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xgene
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:46 am    

Thanks guys. I'm using that information right now

The only one that I'm struggling on is Ecko. It seems weird to be putting him as a "sinner" though totally logical. I'll go with the popular vote though
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mistojen
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:51 am    

xgene wrote:
The only one that I'm struggling on is Ecko. It seems weird to be putting him as a "sinner" though totally logical.


Yeah, being that he's a priest and all, it does seem strange to make him a sinner, but just keep in mind that he sacreligiously used statues of the Virgin Mary to conceal heroine to be flown illegally over the border of Nigeria. Also, he's only a priest because he more of less told his brother to sign the papers or his buddies would kill him (the brother, not Eko). Then there's that whole murderous rampage starting in childhood thing... Not very saintly
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ChicaFrom3
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 4:12 am    

Spiral Static wrote:

Sinners:
Michael - Because he's Michael.


*cries at you*
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