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wolffootball37 Expert Vidder

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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:10 am Post subject: 5X03 - "Jughead" Episode Discussion Thread |
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[spoiler:af9b902f93]Desmond[/spoiler:af9b902f93]
Synopsis
[spoiler:af9b902f93]Desmond looks for a woman who might be the key to helping Faraday stop the island's unpredictable movements through time; Locke finds out who has been attacking the survivors[/spoiler:af9b902f93]
Guest List
[spoiler:af9b902f93]Guest starring are Nestor Carbonell as Richard Alpert, Sonya Walger as Penelope "Penny" Widmore, Alan Dale as Charles Widmore, Rebecca Mader as Charlotte Lewis, Tom Connolly as Jones, Alexandra Krosney as Ellie, Imelda Corcoran as Abigail, Matthew Alan as Cunningham, Dan Hildebrand as custodian, Mary Ann Taheny as Moira, Raymond Ma as Efren Salonga, Sarah Farooqui as Theresa and Tuli Roy-Kirwan as secretary.[/spoiler:af9b902f93] |
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xXAngelicEvilXx
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:07 am |
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Another %%$ING AWESOME episode!!!
A couple of very nice reveals.
[spoiler:f5e10a6eb8]Now we know partially why Widmore is so interested in the island. Because he's been there before. Trying to get back.[/spoiler:f5e10a6eb8]
Theory alert
[spoiler:f5e10a6eb8]Faraday's mother is possibly the woman that Desmond met in the jewelry store, the one who knows the future, and who seems to be keeping track of "when" the island is[/spoiler:f5e10a6eb8][/spoiler] |
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Lostwithoutdom Expert Vidder

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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:11 am |
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Such a good eppy!!!
I’m really glad they weren’t constantly moving through time again in this one, it made it a little less confusing.
I LOVE Des and Penny!!! They are adorable!
Especially how they named their son after Charlie. I thought that was so sweet! Cause in a way Charlie helped them find each other again, plus it's nice to see that at least a few people remember him.
I'm really loving Sawyer and Juliet together, idk there's just something about their scenes together. I liked when Juliet was like "Why don't we all put our guns down". lol
Seeing Charles Widmore on the island in the past was pretty freakin' awesome! When Richard said his name I was like "Oh MY God!!! Widmore!! Penny's Dad!"  _________________ Morgan

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nikkimonique Expert Vidder

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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:12 am |
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Yay! How sweet is it that they named their baby Charlie?! Awwwwwwwwwwww! and do you think that lady that Sawyer called Blondie is Dan's mom?
Oooo and next week!!
[spoiler:0dcc8c7335]" I saw Kate in the jungle!![/spoiler:0dcc8c7335]
I can't wait! _________________


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HobbitRockGod Expert Vidder

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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:16 am |
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WOW. WOW. WOW. WOW. WOW. 
I am completely awed by Dan's amazingness. "I'm in love with the woman sitting next to me." What a brave guy!! I love him, Charladay is my new favorite ship. Living, that is.
[spoiler:7eb900beff][Charlotte better not die. I SAW her in the promo for next week. Which looks amazing, btw. Anyone else think they're going back to the night Boone died/Aaron was born?[/spoiler:7eb900beff]
Yay for Despenny naming their baby Charlie!!! That made me soo happy! 
OMG @ Charles Widmore being on the island! WOW. Wonder how/why he left?
Dan's mom is totally gonna end up being Ms. Hawking. I'm, like, sure. 
Umm....can't think of anything else atm, because I'm busy being in awe of Dan's amazingness. XD _________________


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Polarbear Expert Vidder

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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:00 am |
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I love that the guy is Charles Widmore I had ruled it out because his name tag was Jones but I guess that was just a ruse. I think we can also assume Daniel's mother is Ellie (girl with gun) after he recognised her and that his mother is Mrs Hawking cause she's in LA where ben met her.
I loved Desmond's talk to 'Charlie' about the island and it turning out to be Great Britain. It's so cute they had a baby 
Sawyer: "Where'd you learn Latin?"
Juliet "In Others 101."
I was expecting this episode to be mega after people reviewed it with high scores on dark ufo so I had a very high expectation for it. It's more of a 8.5 for me good episode though. _________________
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NepEnut Expert Vidder

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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:21 am |
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WOW!!!
SOOOOOO many good reveals in this one!!! Overall, it wasn't super impressive, but I'm really glad it wasn't all over the place this week. It made it much, much easier to follow and my brain wasn't nearly as overwhelmed. But still...a few things/opinions:
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1. OMG DES/PENNY BABY!!! And he named him Charlie too!! Omg, that almost made me cry, it was so sweet!!
2. So obviously it's confirmed now - Mrs. Hawking is Faraday's mom. That's very, very interesting....I can't wait to see what that means!!
3. Charles Widmore on the island!! Some people said this after last week, but I wasn't too sure about it. But omg!! I really wonder if Widmore was the first leader of the island, but Ben stole his thunder and they've been in this epic battle since? Hmmm...
4. I was kind of upset when Des went to see Widmore, because it seemed like the best thing to do was stay away from him, but I think that scene was interesting because it was very obvious that Widmore is very nervous about Penny. I think behind all the evilness & callousness, he might be exactly like Ben in a way, and have a soft spot for his daughter.
5. Omg Locke & Richard!! That whole conversation was awesome....John told him to go visit him when he was born...obviously that explains why Richard was at Locke's birth....
6. I'm kind of curious what happened to that girl that Faraday left. Obviously he experimented on her, but hmmm...I sense a Faraday backstory soon....
7. And yay for Charladay!! I soooo wanted him to kiss her, but then she had to go and get all bloody and pass out.
8. And finally since I'm tired and I need to get to bed soon - I was slightly disappointed by the lack of Ben. But that's just me 
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I CAN'T FREAKING WAIT UNTIL NEXT WEEK!!!!  _________________
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riay_night Advanced Vidder

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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:34 am |
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DUDE. This episode was great. Loved it.
Charlotte Dan... aw sweet. Faraday is HOT. Sorry ladies... I think so. I think some of you agree with me though!
I get the feeling he doesn't really care about her sometimes though. I don't know...
Charles Widmore! He was a vicious little f*** even back in the day! I think Mrs. Hawking is Faraday's mom... personally.
OMFG NEXT WEEK-
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THAT WAS A JATE KISS, RIGHT? HELLLLL YEAH. Sorry Skate. I just love it. And I am like the new representative for Suliet, so yeah. 
OKAY, creepster. I didn't think the 'I saw Kate in the jungle' would refer to Kate, back in time! I thought they like arrived in the next episode. The other theory makes way more sense though!!! That is so creepy... Was there ever a point in the other seasons where they thought they saw someone in the jungle? Dude, this is so great. I cannot wait for next week.
Is it just me, or is this so Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban? Like where they have to stay out of sight because they're traveling through time? [/spoiler:b15fb6d754] _________________ <3 Jourdan

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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:36 am |
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I'm pretty sure that seeing Kate in the jungle in the promo refers (wasn't it the premiere?) of Season 2, when Locke is lowering Kate in the hatch and all of a sudden she disappears, which explains that tall white light they all see.
I'm just really looking forward to this, it's getting really interesting  |
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Charlies_Innocence Expert Vidder

Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Posts: 4410
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:11 pm |
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AWESOME EPPY!
| Quote: | | Charlotte Dan... aw sweet. Faraday is HOT. Sorry ladies... I think so. I think some of you agree with me though! |
I agree, Jourdan, you're not the only one.
I hope Charlotte'll be okay. I'm still wondering why it's only her?? What's different about her?
I actually thought Ellie might be that girl... The one Dan did experiments on. But I do think Ms. Hawking is his mother.
YAY, I love Desmond for naming his son Charlie! That made me soo happy!
And Widmore on the island! That was a shocker! So he was one of the Others... Hmm.
I really can't wait for next week!  _________________

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SassyLostie2 Expert Vidder
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:45 pm |
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Wow, awesome episode! It was just sooo good! I love love loved all the sweet DesPenny goodness! Penny knows Dessie so well, I was glad she wasn't upset that he lied to her at first. And their baby! Major AWW's are in order. Right after she had the baby and Desmond was saying he loved her... awww. 
Btw, Mrs. Hawking is SO Dan's mom!
[spoiler:9bf94e998c]I also heard that Mrs. Hawking's first name is Eloise... hehe So Ellie too? [/spoiler:9bf94e998c]
Btw, I agree. In an adorkable way, Dan is kinda hot. Not in a Sawyer or Jack way... but somehow someway... I loved how he told Charlotte that he loved her like that! Brave dude there. Charlday just rocks my socks. hehe
[spoiler:9bf94e998c]Though I'm pretty sure Charlotte is gonna die. I just feel it. *le sigh* And maybe she's different cuz she was supposedly born on the island and then left or something? I have no idea...[/spoiler:9bf94e998c]
Widmore on the is on the island. OMG! I was so shocked when I saw that scene!
Oh, and I agree. I think Sawyer is going to stumble on Claire giving birth, so he might see Kate then... it won't be that she's actually there though. They keep going all over in time, so it's likely that they'd see some of the their other selves sometime. I just hope they never do a cliche "see the other them" scene/interact with them etc. :S Cuz that would mess with the fabric of time! (except in Bill and Ted's world, apparently. That's all ok in San Dimas - lol) _________________

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emmasholi Council Member

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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:45 pm |
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Aww mini Desmond is so cute and they called him Charlie!!! awwwww
And I agree, think Ms. Hawking is now highly likely to be Dan's mum after Widmore told Des she was in LA
And YAY! Cannot wait for next week!!!  _________________

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Charmed_Charlee Expert Vidder
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:16 pm |
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Yay, my fave episode so far of all 3 
Loved it this week, really loved the reveals as well.
Yep, I so hope that Mrs Hawkins is Dan's mother because I thought that last week and now it just seems to be leaning more towards it 
Love is as awesome as ever.
I also liked about this episode, that it lead away from the whole 'oceanic 6' plot and focused more on Des's story and the whole islandies 
Loved the whole thing with Widmore as well, found that very interesting that it kind of brings more stuff up into as why he wants to get back to the island. Loved the thing with Locke as well telling Richard to visit him when he is born, that was very cool! 
I loved the whole Charlie being the name of the child, thought that since I heard the spoiler that Charlie was in this epi but not in person. I found it also very sweet calling him that after what he went through with Desmond.
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IamSoLostRightNow Expert Vidder

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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:43 pm |
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I'm with everyone else. I can't get over the fact that Despenny named their baby Charlie! Way to twist the knife in our hearts lost writers! Awww but it was really so sweet and very fitting.
So I guess the big question is who is Ji Yeon destined to end up with Aaron or Charlie? Or will she be forever torn between the two like the Kate/Jack/Sawyer triangle?
My money is on a Ji Aaron shipping. 
Also I kind of wanted John to just give past Widmore a lil' slap on the face... you know, just for existing.
I also heart Charladay soooo much and I really hope Charlotte doesn't die! Even though time is a little trippy on the show right now, I kind of want to see a legit Faraday flashback about his experiments/relationship with that woman. |
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nikkimonique Expert Vidder

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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:45 pm |
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| Quote: | | Btw, I agree. In an adorkable way, Dan is kinda hot. Not in a Sawyer or Jack way... but somehow someway.. |
he's hot in a geeky way and geeks can be sooo hot!! _________________

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