Lost Video Island

Brooke · Expert Vidder Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Posts: 24129

Polarbear wrote
They seem to be saying that these people will end up together no matter what they do though. As much as I love Daniel and Charlotte who's to say they are a one true love pairing.. from what we have seen it is mostly an infatuation on Daniel's part yet they seem to be fated to meet each other in the alternate universe. It just seems like they are mirroring the relationships that have happened on the island and it comes across as cheesy to me so I'm hoping it is not the final message of the show. I can buy it for a Des and Penny but not for every relationship on the show of any substance.[/quote]

I think there are some people who are just destined to be with someone? And maybe they are hinting at the idea that 'there is one for everyone', but it's not the grand scheme of the show, just something they're throwing in?

I think these are the same people, just their lives are a tad bit different. That's my take on it. SOme aspects of their lives are different, some aspects of themselves are different, but they're a tiny piece of the others on the island. If that makes sense.

I think it might be a word of the show, not the entire message. Best analogy I have for it.

I hope your right about the Desmond/Charlie thing. Him putting his hand on the glass was just awkward to me.

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Brooke · Expert Vidder Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Posts: 24129

Polarbear · Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:31 am Post subject:

You have to take into account that his past is vastly different. He hasn't been carrying round as much baggage as he was in the regular timeline. He's still the same guy but with a different past. It seems like people need sawyer or I should say James to be snarky all the time or throwing out nicknames or else he isn't the same guy. I just see the character as a lot deeper than that.

They were always going to revisit the cages being on Hydra Island and that seemed like the best way to do it from his perspective.

By the way I thought Charlie meant Kate at first too hehe I was like heh I would fall in love with Kate too if I saw her

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Brooke · Expert Vidder Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Posts: 24129

thefilmchick · Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:37 am Post subject:

Brooke: Weakest of the series? Oh, how soon we forget The Hunting Party and Exposé! Good to know I'm not alone in my corner of scorn here, though.

Paul: Nonetheless, just because the past is (presumably) different, it's not that different. His parents were still killed. He still intends to find Ur-Sawyer (aka Anthony Cooper, or whoever he is in the X-Timeline). If that's the case, then he should still be edgier and shiftier than he was in his episode, judging from what we saw of Sawyer through the prior seasons.

I don't need nicknames and constant smart-aleck remarks, but I don't need him to be a neutered, semi-spineless waste of space, either, which is what he seemed to be in the X-Timeline (and what I think he tended towards in the last couple seasons.) It feels more like fanservice than character evolution to me, and that bugs me.
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Brooke · Expert Vidder Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Posts: 24129

Polarbear · Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:48 am Post subject:

He hasn't spent his whole life conning people though and is on the straight and narrow. People say he's a bent cop cause he let Kate go but I think that has more to do with him remembering her from on the island in his gut and giving her a pass. As for killing Cooper.. he chose to tell Miles about it which was a huge step for him and I reckon he won't actually go through with it now he's managed to get it out in the open. I don't think it is much a big deal to him in this timeline. He hasn't been carrying that letter he wrote as a kid just a dumb folder.

As for season 5 you know there is the small matter of three years development that we sadly never saw. Oh Oceanic 6 why did you have to take over seasons 4 and 5

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Athena Alexandria · Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:41 am Post subject:

littleton_pace · Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 6:37 am Post subject:

ok, so i mega-squeed when i saw Jeremy Davies and Doms names come up at the start

Poor Des; getting beat up after being shot - but he's a tough cookie!!

Damn i love alan Dale

he's so epic!

OMG that charlie scene in the bar!! That's why he wants to die; he wants to get back to Claire!!

to true love!!

my heart was racing throughout that scene; gives me hope that they'll cross paths at some point before the end of season

And I too thought when he said the 'woman in handcuffs' he's start talking about kate, my heart actually dropped, but thank god that didnt happen

gah, the "not penny's boat' moment - one of the highlights of the season for me so far!!!

I gasped! i didn't find it awkward, i saw it as Charlie in that moment remembering; and showing poitning out to des that he remembered.

I was hoping Claire and Charlie would meet at the hospital!!!! Damn

I had this theory everyone would meet at the hospiatl at the end or something.

Eloise knows all

she's so cool:)

Dan! Dan! Dan!! Never thought i'd be excited to see him

i loved all the connections with the real life and the AU lives. I've been waiting 11 episodes for something like this

My fave ep of the season so far!!

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soapbubbles511 · Expert Vidder Joined: 03 Nov 2008 Posts: 8959

EEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

Desmond.episodes.are.awesome.

I knew if there was one person who could connect the two timelines it would be Des... Des is always mixed up in all the AU shift of consciousness stories...

Eloise... Eloise definitely still knows something... something about WTF is going on... when she told Des that he'd got what he always wanted, Widmore's approval... important... don't know how exactly but it's important to why we have the FS... because that's what Des had wanted, why he was racing around the world in a boat, why he ended up on the island... he wanted Widmore's approval, for him to think he was worthy of Penny... and in the FS he had that but his life was empty without Penny

Charlie... I think when he almost died in LA X he connected with his on island universe... would explain his vision of Claire... would explain why he said he was supposed to die in LA X... and would explain why he drove the car into the water and more specifically pressed his hand against the glass like that.... his near death experience let him connect with the other universe and he was making Desmond see it too (and possible this is what happened with Jules too... as she was dying she connected with the FS... Suliet are SO getting coffee sometime in the FS)

Daniel (Widmore!) was interesting... first that without the island Eloise and Charles stayed together and raised Daniel... and that without Eloise pushing Daniel towards his destiny and the island he stuck with music and never became a physicist.. but him having a flash of his other life... and that whole conversation with Des about what if he already had set off a nuclear bomb

hells yes... this FS stuff is finally getting somewhere (although I was half expecting on the other page of the journal for him to have written Desmond Hume is my Constant

)

DESPENNY!!!!!!!!! they give me chills, seriously... PENNY IS HIS CONSTANT!! this episode just reinforced that tenfold... in the MRI machine and he starts having flashes of Penny... and it is no coincidence that as soon as he touched Penny's hand he fainted and on island Des woke up... she's his constant, she connects him to both timelines... and gah, did you see how happy he was in the car after meeting her

Athena Alexandria · Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:21 am Post subject:

I knew you would love this episode, Kat!

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Belle MacFarlane · Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:43 am Post subject:

I realized pretty quickly that the chamber thingy had made Desmond go into the flashsideways - at first I was disappointed that it was gonna be a largely flashsideways episode, but then I wasn't so when it was epic

I knew Charlie and Penny were gonna be in it, but I had no idea about Dan - was SO excited when the camera panned across the back of his head, I love that man like nobody's business (I know, I know, I love too many characters

) so I was like "ooh I hope they show more than that of him" then they did and I was like, yaaay

I half-expected Dan to have written "if anything happens, Desmond will be my constant" in his journal

I'm gonna have to take a closer look at what was written in that journal, see if it helps

one thing that popped into my mind, I wonder how/when he got it? Because remember, Eloise gave him the journal when he graduated from Oxford as the youngest ever Physics student, and she gave it to him I guess because he had it on him when he died. So maybe, idk, she saw it and got deja vu? Loved the little Charladay reference - they're so cute together

oh and I literally squeed (or as my friend would say, I jizzed in my pants

) when Dan said "my name is Daniel Widmore" - I wonder who Faraday is then?

One thing I've always wanted to know and want to know even more now - who the hell is Penny's mother??

Like most people have already said, I like how they're handling the love parts of the show now - they're not saying it's the most important aspect of the show, but it is a part of the message they're giving - I also think that it's a way of showing that destiny will always overcome - no matter what happens, Desmond will always find Penny, Charlie and Dan will always have strange obsessions over Claire and Charlotte (I like Charladay, but not really PB&J - Charlie always seemed like an obsessed stalker to me - I mean, damn, he wouldn't leave her alone, even when she hated him

he even got jealous when Claire became friends with Locke. /end rant)

I'm hoping Desmond will try and make the other passengers remember the Island - it'll be cool if they do

I can't wait to see where TPTB are going with the flashsideways - they really seem to be getting more and more important now

Athena Alexandria · Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:52 am Post subject:

I'm not sure why Daniel and his father and his mother all have different names, Millie (except that maybe the writers didn't originally plan for him to be their son which also seems to be what happened with Miles and Pierre Chang) but 'Faraday' is a science reference like Hawking:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Faraday

Michael Faraday had a lot to do with electromagnetism (he also discovered its effect on light as is kind of hinted in with that line where Daniel says the light 'doesn't scatter' right on the island) which is probably why the writers chose the name.

I doubt they'll ever bother to explain it beyond that.

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