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Clip Theft: A Serious Issue
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Madz25
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aislynn wrote:
Coming in way late here, but I still thought I'd throw in my 2 cents...

To me, the difference between clip theft and using footage from a show like Lost is all about claiming the credit.

When you use the footage from a Lost episode, for example, you're not claiming that you wrote it, cast it and filmed it and it's yours. (I hope you're not, anyway... )

When a website puts up clips from a Lost ep, they're usually doing it to help provide material for people to make vids out of. It's considered polite to credit them so that, in return for their generosity, they get some advertising. That's how I found a lot of sites, from seeing them credited at the ends of vids who used their clips.

When you take clips from somebody else's vid, though, especially when it's a long section of clips that has effects, transitions or whatever applied to it, then you ARE taking somebody else's work and claiming credit for it. You're essentially saying that you did that particular piece of editing, though you really didn't.

I don't think people are really worried that somebody might take a piece out of their vid that is basically the unedited scene looking like it did when it was aired. You just don't want to see your carefully thought-out scenes and effects showing up under somebody else's vidder name.

That's the heart of clip theft to me, anyway...




BINGO! I totally agree, Ill admit I used to be a clip thefter...or um theif (before I ever decided to show my videos to others on the net mind you) and I saw it as no big deal because I was taking clips that were, like you said, un-edited and just as they were on TV. But once I decided to show them on the internet I discovered how big of a deal clip theft was and wanted no part in it....so I am now 100% clip theft free WOOHOO!!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im clip theft free
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JuppJulasch
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 5:37 pm    Post subject: I didn't used anything from anyone!!! Reply with quote

Hy all.
Pls excuse the following broken english...

I received an Email, that my Vid -->Jupp's LOST<-- had been deleted
because i used Clips from other members!?!?
So called a Clip Thief..

I can't accept this,
because it's not the truth...


I edited my Video all alone
(27.03.2006-18.05.2006)
taking clips from my own S01&S02 Avi's
and also from my DVD's.
There are only 2Scenes where i got
my inspiration from somewhere else...
(also taken from my stuff)

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Jack open's up his eyes...(S01E01) [ ...will we life? ]

Jack nearly plunge's down the cliff, as Locke rescued him...(S01E05-White Rabbit)
[...is there still a part of you who want's to life... ]

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But i never stole something
from other users logged here or somewhere else.
The first time i got here
was about 5Days ago...

Pls give me some answers,
why or what i've done wrong!
Thank you.
JuppJulasch


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New Post : 25 may 2006 (C.Europe)

My Video:Jupp's Lost had been deleted.

My lovely friend Willow trie's to explain for me in much better
english than i'm able to...

Hello ,

thanks for your quick response. I completely understand your concern about what seems to look like watermarks in my video clip and the concept about video clip theft. I hope I can clarify that misunderstanding, since it was neither my intention to cause confusion and trouble with my clip nor did I in any way take any parts of my video clip from an already existing video clip made by any other vidder. This fan clip and all parts of it where made by me alone.
See, the parts of the clip where I added the cross dissolve have actually only one purpose - which I admit is a little silly - but my only intention was to make the (to me)fairly annoying and distracting TV-channel Pro7-sign in the screen corner unseen as so to not actually have to have it on the clip anymore. I know now that was stupid, especcially since it caused you so much trouble and confusion.

I apologize for the inconvenience, I'll know better in the future and hope you will be considering to post my fan clip again on your site.

Thank you very much.
Regards


....
Here's also the Punisher Sign i used in one scene:
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/2632/30x303mi.png
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vanilla_coke_nz
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I AM CLIP THEFT FREE.

I get my clips strait from the my DVD recorder.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm new here, and my clip "Turn back time" by Aqua was described like "theft"...And I understand why!!! I'm from Russia, and first season of Lost I watch on our regional chanel "ORT", and then I download first half of season from this chanel, and on that episodes no name of ABC, our chanel have another , and this sign you saw in my clip, it's not some personal signature, it's from this chanel sign...
And another reason may be because the link that I gave you on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_44b097hPE
the vidder name SavageAnna, not Savanna, but this ME! I tried to register on youtube like Savanna, but someone already use this name...On another sites, every where I - Savanna(just because my favorite group Savage Garden)...So what desicion from you I can expect???
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Shankle
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am and always have been clip theft free
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Aislynn
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Savanna! Thanks for your explanation. Sorry that it's taking so long to get back to you but everybody seems to be gone today. Thanks for your patience and I'm sure you'll be hearing from us soon!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks! I will looking forward for your desicion
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IceKat55
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just swinging by to declare my Clip Theft Freeness!
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The Big Bad Wolf Sawyer
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No conin' of clips from me.
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Killers Angel Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only person I have ever stolen a clip from is myself, cause I couldn't find the episode to edit it out of on my pc. Other than that I don't steal.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the only videos on my movie maker are the episodes which i have got from websites - watchlost.com, freewebs.com/moth_butterfly, evangeline-lilly.net and josh-holloway.com
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am a new vidder, I've only submitted two vids here, and I say here and now that I am no clip pirate (although I do love pirates, especially ones named Sparrow)!!!

That's my promise. No stealing here.

-FrecklesPhoenix
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How have I not noticed this post before?

I agree with Aislynn, for me it used to be very tempting to clip thieve, but I always refrained from it because I knew how much it annoys and upsets people. That's why my videos always used to be along the same lines; because I could only really get Kate or Sawyer clips. To be honest, it's been my dream for a while to start a massive site where you can download any clip of Lost, in .wmv, at all, like there'd be episode guides and every single scene of an episode would be available to download separately. It would probably cost gazillions though, especially since I'm no amazing Hobbes protege!

Anyway, this is AlcoholicPixie (aka Kay, Kayla, Freak) declaring my 110% clip theft free-ness!

1. MovieGuy (MG, Potter, or that ridiculous nickname, Colin) am Clip Theft Free.
2. Polarbear (Paul)
3. ebizmybef74 (Liz)
4. Hollywood (Holly)
5. ChicaFrom3 (Kristen)
6. Hobbes (Warren)
7. MoreLight (Geoff)
8. Ally (erm.. yeah Ally >>)
9. Lostcalier (Aimee)
10. Ringwench (Sarah)
11. JakeNRoland (Grandpa Jake)
12. Lostzilla (Nate)
13. Aislynn (aka Auntie, the Incredible Invisible Viddergirl)
14. Di (aka... Di)
15. fallen_angel (Vicky)
16. BtVSfreak (Harry)
17. Ivy
18. Iceofthestars
19. BA5763 (AKA B, Pinched Circulation)
20. Rocksiren (Ruth)
21. Marcus (aka Marci, Marc, Marco, and formerly the "Young'un")
22. SamanthaJackson
23. Sheree
24. Fan4Lost
25. Ana (aka Ana B)
26. Flight-815 (aka "The Newb")
27. IntoTheVoid
28. vanilla_coke_nz
29. Shankle
30. IceKat55
31. The Big Bad Wolf Sawyer
32. Killers Angel Eyes
33. charmed_charlie
34. FrecklesPhoenix
35. AlcoholicPixie (aka Kay, Kayla, Freak)
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was just wondering if umm you could report clip theft??
Because I just watched a recent video that someone uploaded here and there's maybe like 3 or 4 seconds of footage in their video that i know are clips from a video I just recently submitted.
There's no transitions or anything, but i can tell by the color and stuff that they're mine, i know they are.
And i dont know if there's a certain way that you go about handling it, cuz i dont use watermarks on my videos or anything, and maybe it's not long enough to be considered as theft but it kinda makes me mad.
So idk if i was supposed to say somethng about it on this thread or PM one of the moderators or what, but i thought i should at least say something.
So yeah....thanks to anyone who can let me know anything about it
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