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Brooke
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:46 pm    Post subject: Transitions help Reply with quote

I am horrible with transitions. They look really sloppy when I try to do the additive dissolve. I honestly don’t think I know what I am doing. When I do it, it seems to bleed together, and not hit the transition on the beat that I want it to hit and it often just looks like lights flickering on and off.

I have seen in videos, I have no examples to show, but I have seen in some videos where only one section flashes, for instance the face. It’s one of the reasons why I usually stick to songs with less beats to avoid doing loads of transitions.

Am I doing something wrong?
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Aislynn
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Additive dissolve works better with some footage and not as good with others, so it may just be that the scenes you're putting it on are one of the "not as good" ones (or they become "not as good" once they're combined together in a certain way ). Have you also tried playing around with the other types of dissolves to see if they give you more of the look you're hoping for? And, of course, the length of the dissolve can greatly effect how it looks (the more the two clips are crossedfaded together, the longer and slower the transition appears, if the clips are just barely faded together, the transition will go by in a blink).

Also, a lot of times additive dissolve is used specifically for the "flickering lights" look, so maybe that's not really what you're looking for? It all basically depends on your music and your personal preference, IMO.

I find that a lot of times that, unless the music seems to really call for it, you're better off to use hard cuts (changing a clip on the beat without any transition). Of course, the exception is if you have a song full of beats and treating them that way would turn it into one long rolling set of quick cuts! Also, utilizing the motion in a clip (Kate slapping Jack, for example) is another great way to use the beat without relying on just transitions. Mixing them all up together often is very helpful in giving your vid powerful beat use.

Again, though, it really comes down to personal preference on how you would like to see the beats handled. Sometimes it's better to just acknowledge the big beats and not overdo it with every single beat. Other times it looks just awesome to hit all of them. Sometimes it looks better to use transitions for beat use, other times just hard cuts, or maybe just doing fades looks better if the music has a sort of "soft" sound to it. It pretty much just all depends on the song, the theme of the vid and your own artistic vision for it. But there's not any one certain way that it has to be done. If you don't like the way additive dissolves are looking in your vid, then it's usually best to go with something else that gives the look you're hoping for.

MysticWondering wrote:
I have seen in videos, I have no examples to show, but I have seen in some videos where only one section flashes, for instance the face.


Depending on if the vidder used masking or cookie-cuttering to specifically make one part of the image flash, then that usually is rather up to amount of light and color in the two shots that are transitioning together. In my Time Traveler's Wife trailer, I used one of the dissolves at the 25 second mark to transition between the "empty" shot of the sky and the clip of Sawyer to make it seem like he was disappearing. I picked that particular type of dissolve because of the way it seemed to "eat up" portions of his clothes before it got to his face and hair to better mock the way the real "Time Traveler's Wife" did their (much more sophisticated ) disappearing effect. If I would've been just applying that effect on the clip of Sawyer standing there, then it would've made it look like either his clothes or his face and hair flashed but you really wouldn't have seen anything else seem to flash because the sky in both shots was too similar and the dissolve effects are more noticeable when transitioning to different colors and light levels.

For just controlling the way effects or transitions hit the beat, it's just a matter of finessing your clips around, moving them a little bit back or a little bit forward, adjusting the length of the transition, etc. until you get them to where they fall right where you want them to. You can drop a marker (by pressing the "m" key) where you have a specific beat you want to hit (you can click and drag the flag part of the marker until you have it placed right where you need it), then basically line your clip change or effect up with that marker on the timeline. That should make the beat and the effect/transition/clip change hit right when you want it to. Though I find that with some songs, I have to actually put the effect, etc. a little before the beat or it seems like it's not quite synced right. It just all depends, again, on your song and your own style!

Anyway, hope some of that is helpful to you. It basically is just like with anything else in vidding, it just takes some playing around with it until you find a way of handling it that best suits your own vidding preferences.
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Brooke
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you so much. I really really apperciate you going through all that with me. Sometimes I like what additive disolve does, and sometimes I feel it's over done in my videos. I like the use of the clip IE slapping for the beat. I do that a lot with Sawyer hitting Jack and Vice versa. Also changing the clip for a beat.

And yes, playing around with. It's how I learned to do a lot of things with Sony Vegas.

Thanks again.
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