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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:37 pm    Post subject: Hate Me (Jack) Reply with quote

Hate Me by Blue October

I have to block out thoughts of you so I don't lose my head
They crawl in like a cockroach leaving babies in my bed
Dropping little reels of tape to remind me that I'm alone
Playing movies in my head that make a porno feel like home
There's a burning in my pride, a nervous bleeding in my brain
An ounce of peace is all I want for you. Will you never call again?
And will you never say that you love me just to put it in my face?
And will you never try to reach me?
It is I that wanted space

Hate me today
Hate me tomorrow
Hate me for all the things I didn't do for you
Hate me in ways
Yeah ways hard to swallow
Hate me so you can finally see what's good for you

I'm sober now for 3 whole months it's one accomplishment that you helped me with
The one thing that always tore us apart is the one thing I won't touch again
In a sick way I want to thank you for holding my head up late at night
While I was busy waging wars on myself, you were trying to stop the fight
You never doubted my warped opinions on things like suicidal hate
You made me compliment myself when it was way too hard to take
So I'll drive so fucking far away that I never cross your mind
And do whatever it takes in your heart to leave me behind

Hate me today
Hate me tomorrow
Hate me for all the things I didn't do for you
Hate me in ways
Yeah ways hard to swallow
Hate me so you can finally see what's good for you

And with a sad heart I say bye to you and wave
Kicking shadows on the street for every mistake that I had made
And like a baby boy I never was a man
Until I saw your blue eyes crying and I held your face in my hand
And then I fell down yelling "make it go away!"
Just make a smile come back and shine just like it used to be
And then she whispered "How can you do this to me?"

Hate me today
Hate me tomorrow
Hate me for all the things I didn't do for you
Hate me in ways
Yeah ways hard to swallow
Hate me so you can finally see what's good for you, for you, for you, for you.


i think this song is perfect for jack.. and his relationship with the girls... anyone?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about just a Jate one? I've not got many clips of him with his other girls.. Oh hang on.. I might do actually. How about Jate on the verses and his other women in the choruses?? I think this could be pretty cool, if you don't mind me doing it. It might not be the best cause my AU's get like, golds and stuff but my non-AU's are only ok. Up to you...?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AHH! Don't!!! Well, actually you can if you want to....I'm making this one soon tho! And yes, it will be Jate. I've had this idea for a while. I'm just working on like 3 vids right now, so I don't have the time atm. I think it's a great song, especially for Future Jack.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh ok dude. That's cool. I've got a load of ideas aswell so I'll probably just crack on with those. I just had an idea for like, one line of the song that I thought would be cool which made me wanna do it. You can totally use my suggestion if you want or not if your vid was gonna be, you know, different or whatever. The line about little reels of tape? i thought it'd be kinda cool if Jack was looking at Sawyer giving Kate her mix tape and was perhaps thinking back to seeing that in the future. I know it's a randomly specific idea but hey - that's the way my little mind works. Just thought it could look cool. Anyhoo, I'll keep an eye out for it. Should be good.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks! If you'd like to help me out. Maybe I can make it and you can help we with ideas? I mean, since you had the idea too? I was wondering about these lines -

"They crawl in like a cockroach leaving babies in my bed
Dropping little reels of tape to remind me that I’m alone"

For the porno part, I was going to flash images of Sawyer and Kate in Catch 22 maybe, with the scratchy film effect thing....either that, or him and Achara, I wasn't sure if I should have Kate or him. You helped me with the 'little reels of tape' I can try that, but the first line is the worst one...
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the scratchy film effect idea. maybe for the line "playing movies in my head" you could have Kate and Sawyer and then for "the makes a porno feel like home" bit you could fade it in to him and Achara.
I was also thinking that for the baby cockroaches line you could perhaps introduce an AU element with Kate and Sawyer having a baby and that's what made Jack a broken man.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oooh! Great ideas on all counts. I never thought of fading Skate into Jack/Achara! That makes me wants to start right now!! But I have to finish the last bits of my other two vids first. I'll start this soon. Any other particular scene inspiration you had? I think I'm pretty good on this, just those few lines I wasn't sure about...but there was one more line I forgot to mention. The one about holding his head up at night? How do I do that if it's supposed to be Kate? Maybe flashback to something instead of now? I plan on using FutureJack alot cuz it just sounds desperate and helpless like he was...kinda.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking for the "holding his head up" line, you could kinda interpret the lyrics in a slightly abstract way. Cause in one of the last flashbacks, he takes a swig from a bottle and then he calls her and asks to meet and I think just before he says hello, he kinda jerks his head up. It could mean that when he's drinking, he calls her and she kinda holds his head up in a emotional way. That sounds lame now i've said it.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NO! I love it. Not lame. I love having your POV, I have tons of ideas for lines, but for the few that I'm not sure about, you seem to have ideas. So cool! Thank you!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're very welcome. It's a pleasure. I like that my ideas seem cool. Yay!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh My God, just now i watch this theard sorry! GO GO GO GO !!!!!! I'm happy for someone to catch this song and make a Jate vid from jack's pov^^
great ideas for the vid, i can't wait to see it
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SassyLostie2 wrote:
Thanks! If you'd like to help me out. Maybe I can make it and you can help we with ideas? I mean, since you had the idea too? I was wondering about these lines -

"They crawl in like a cockroach leaving babies in my bed
Dropping little reels of tape to remind me that I’m alone"

For the porno part, I was going to flash images of Sawyer and Kate in Catch 22 maybe, with the scratchy film effect thing....either that, or him and Achara, I wasn't sure if I should have Kate or him. You helped me with the 'little reels of tape' I can try that, but the first line is the worst one...


Dude. Awesome awesome awesome Jack song. AND YES! When I read the lyrics, I thought 'porno' part, def show a clip of Skate. I don'tknow if you'll go this direction, but I was actually seeing a manip of him watching tv with them in it... but I can't wait to see this from you!!!! *is excited*
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ooh, you just gave me an idea, Jourdan! For the "playing movies in my head" I'll use the Catch-22 love scene, and then for "that make a porno feel like home" I'll have FF Jack watching him and Achara on the tv! Ya know, that scene when he's drinking the screwdriver and watching Hurley's car chase? Wow, that would be kinda twisted...I like it. Any thoughts on this, Freya?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah - I love that. He looks kinda shocked for a second so it could be a kinda 'descent into madness' type thing - maybe he could look and see him and Achara, then maybe look again and it's back to 'regular programming' like he's going ker-azy and can't separate reality from his sexy-time memories. I dunno - just a thought.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was JUST thinking that, Freya. That it changes to regular tv. This is gonna be really cool.
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