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thefilmchick
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The sun struggles up, another beautiful day
And I felt glad in my own suspicious way
Despite the contradiction and confusion
Felt tragic without reason
There's malice and there's magic in every season
[Chorus:]
From the foaming breakers of the poisonous surf
The other side of summer
To the burning forests and the hills of Astroturf
The other side of summer
The automatic gates close up between the shanties and the palace
The blowtorch amusements, the voodoo chalice
The pale pathetic promises that everybody swallows
The teenage girl is crying 'cos she don't look like a million dollars
So help her if you can 'cos she don't seem to have the attention span
[Chorus]
Was it a millionaire who said "Imagine no possessions"?
A poor little schoolboy who said "We don't need no lessons"?
The rabid rebel dogs ransack the shampoo shop
The pop princess is downtown shooting up
And if that goddess is fit for burning
The sun will struggle up, the world will still keep turning
Madman standing by the side of the road, saying
"Look at my eyes, look at my eyes, look at my eyes, look at my eyes"
Now you can't afford to fake all the drinks your parents used to take
Because of their mistakes you'd better be wide awake
[Chorus]
The mightiest rose, the absence of perfume
The casual killers, the military curfew
The cardboard city and the unwanted birthday
The other side of summer
The dancing was desperate, the music was worse
They bury your dreams and dig up the worthless
Goodnight, God bless, and kiss goodbye to the earth
The other side of summer
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thefilmchick
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Bumping again to say thanks for the council pick! Hopefully other people like it too. 
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KajaM
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One of my favourite vids of yours. The interpretation of the lyrics is simply wonderful and I love the (sometimes rather cruel  ) irony of the vid. The editing could've been a bit stronger at some places, i.e. more beat use and some quicker cuts, but I absolutely enjoyed it nontheless. Cool vid! 
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thefilmchick
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Kaja: Thanks! Yeah, the lyric interpretation is rather cruel, but so is the song, and I generally do well with dark lyrics. Like I've said before, pretty much all of Elvis Costello's catalog could work lyrically for 'Lost' in some way.
As far as beat use, mind pointing out the places? I found a few spots and I'm curious if we're thinking of the same ones, so hell, it wouldn't hurt.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:52 am Post subject: The Other Side of Summer by thefilmchick |
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you do do well with the dark lyrics. but i liked this, really fitting. and sayid being heroic at the beginning, as he is, was lovely!! shannon, the crying teenager, perfect  who else could you pick? |
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thefilmchick
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Uh, I could have picked Claire. But it would have been a much more dramatic crying, which wouldn't have worked for the lyrics.
I needed a long shot of oceans/surf which had some level of threat in it. Showing him doing the whole Dread-Pirate-Roberts-climbing-up-a-cliff thing worked fine for me! Haha.
Thanks again!
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| Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:44 am Post subject: |
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Nice lyric interpretation. However, the sound on my computer is not great and I couldn't understand a lot of the lyrics (that English not being my first language) so I'll refrain from voting. Hope you understand.
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thefilmchick
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Sure thing. Vote or not as you will! Just used it as an example, anyway. The actual video is here, if it sheds light on any of the lyrics. NB: It's slow as heck to load at first, not sure why. Also, Elvis C. has a ridiculous beard in the video, so go ahead and laugh at that. It was during his 'Beard Years,' heh.
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thefilmchick
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Aussi, si tu as une question particuliere au sujet des mots, demandez-moi y si je sais, je repondrai. (Je suis desolee; ma langue francais est un peu inutilisee. )
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I took a tiny french course last year, and I all I know that you said was "desolee" I believe it means "sorry" right?
Anyways, I believe this song was pretty good for a Lost video! I really liked the song, and I love Elvis Costello too. You really did well on this, especially matching the beats such as the "yeah, yeah, .." parts.Also matching the lyrics was so well done, my favorite was "unwanted birthday" and "mad man by the end of the road" that whole scene with Dave and Hurley, just awesome with the lyrics. Nice job!!
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KajaM
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| thefilmchick wrote: | | As far as beat use, mind pointing out the places? I found a few spots and I'm curious if we're thinking of the same ones, so hell, it wouldn't hurt. |
Hey there,
sorry for being so awfully late (  ), but here it is at last.
I re-watched your vid right now and I noticed that it's basically the beginning of the vid that could've done with some a lil' bit more beat use. The ending is just fine
The clips that caught my attention in particular were the ones with Sayid running towards the Others' camp with a gun in his hand (at about 00:30) and the clip of Shannon at about 00:57. They were simply a bit long, IMO. I reckon they could be a tad shorter or, in the case of the Shannon clip, maybe you could've used some other shots of the same scene (reaction of the other Losties or some more of Sayid maybe?).
You know, I love good and heavy beat use and so I thought that the "yeah yeah" bits as well as the chorus could've done with a bit more beat use, too. For example with even more and faster changing clips. But that's just my personal taste, really.
As already mentioned, the beat use got much stronger from about the middle of the vid onwards. I liked the shattered glass transition and you certainly could've used that more often because it was quite effective. Same goes for the white flashes. Too many white flashes can be annoying, of course, but they worked pretty well here.
All in all though, it's definitely a wonderful and absolutely enjoyable vid! Great work!
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Thanks! The Shannon one didn't catch my eye, but the Sayid one was one of the ones, as well as the 'other side of summer' at the end with the bare feet - that felt a little draggy to me. So you get a score of 50%.
As far as the faster/changing clips for the yeah/yeah, I thought about that but was already working with about 50 billion different clips for people and wasn't too twigged by it, so decided to let that go.
As far as the shattered glass transition, I was worried about using it too much, which is why I put it once about halfway through and once at the end. Glad the white flashes were effective, though, as they were intentionally only repetitively used just at the end with the laundry list from 'the mightiest rose' to 'kiss goodbye to the earth,' to add to that sense of just a list of things.
As far as breaking up the chorus for beat use, how would you suggest it be done? This is my best stab at breaking up the words for max beat use, but I'm curious if you'd change the scansion:
From the foaming breakers / to the poisonous / surf
The other / side / of sum / mer
Through the burning forests / and the hills of / Astroturf
The other / side / of sum / mer
So let me know (again) if you'd like. And no worries on the lateness - just wasn't sure if you had forgotten.
ETA: Hooray! Someone rated it as a one-star video just to be petty. Way to go, Ace Anonymous. You're awesome.
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| thefilmchick wrote: | As far as breaking up the chorus for beat use, how would you suggest it be done? This is my best stab at breaking up the words for max beat use, but I'm curious if you'd change the scansion:
From the foaming breakers / to the poisonous / surf
The other / side / of sum / mer
Through the burning forests / and the hills of / Astroturf
The other / side / of sum / mer |
Looks quite good to me. I'd probably go with The Other / Side Of / Summer, i.e. I wouldn't necessarily split the "summer" bit into two parts. When I'm working on the beat use in my vids (and heck, I'm struggling with the beats of a song often enough... I'm far away from being a beat use expert!) I go by either the heavy and quite obvious beats or I try to divide the song into lyrics sections which (hopefully  ) make sense for the interpretation. (Uh, ok, sorry... that was probably a bit to complicated.  ) What I basically mean is that I wouldn't really split "summer" because it's a major and important part of the song and thus I would use one particular, meaningful clip only for that bit.
(Do I make any sense? Sorry, I'm quite tired at the moment and actually about to go to bed, so that's probably why I'm not able to express myself properly anymore... )
| thefilmchick wrote: | | ETA: Hooray! Someone rated it as a one-star video just to be petty. Way to go, Ace Anonymous. You're awesome. |
Probably just some jealous prick. Unfortunately, there seem to be quite a lot of them. I'm still all upset about that guy who stole my "Everything" vid. 
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