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SuperKC Expert Vidder
Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 3667 Location: On a Stick
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:09 am Post subject: The Dreamers |
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Has anyone seen The Dreamers by Bernardo Bertolucci? I saw it a while back and I'm pretty sure it's rated NC-17. (It had better be! Holy crap!) But I noticed it was on HBO tonight and so I tuned in for maybe the first 30 minutes and it all came flooding back to me. I mean, it's a given that it's going to be "controversial" just because it's Bertolucci, but I mean, c'mon. This movie is crazy.
There's something very beautiful about it. The performances and the cinematography, et al. But Jesus! It's insane. Very risque and sexually explicit. (I was gonna say gratuitous, but that doesn't quite cut it!) I can honestly say that I've never seen anything like it. The premise is just... um. For lack of a better word, PERVERTED!
And yet it retains that artistic quality that makes it more than just "pornography." I guess that's debateable though.
I was wondering if anyone else had seen it and what they thought of it. |
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fallen_angel Advanced Vidder
Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Posts: 4376 Location: Australia
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:36 am Post subject: |
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I saw it..... didn't like it.... the end. _________________ Pirates 3 - MAY 25th 2007!!! |
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SuperKC Expert Vidder
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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fallen_angel wrote: | I saw it..... didn't like it.... the end. |
Haha yeah it is pretty shocking. I'm not sure I hated it , but it's not going on one of my favorite films list or anything. It seems like it WANTS to have a point, but gets too caught up in the perversion to ever get there.
Last night when re-watching the beginning there was the scene at the dinner table where the lead (forget his name) is having dinner with his new friends and he gives that speech to the father about the lighter and how it fits practically anywhere and the universe is connected etc. etc. That whole scene was brilliant in my opinion. Especially the end when Theo (I remember his name, haha) calls his father out about being a hypocrite and says he never wants to become like him. The father's reaction of just utter devastation is played so subltly and brilliantly.
Anyway, it was one of those movies where you go, "I wish it were better." Because it had a lot of potential. It didn't have to be all about the sexual aspect of the 60s revolutions. I honestly think that if it wasn't so sexual or at least overtly sexual (not to be all stuffy and American about it) it would be a really great movie. And I guess that's what bugs me about it! Because I so, SO want it to be that movie. But it's just not. |
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fallen_angel Advanced Vidder
Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Posts: 4376 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:44 am Post subject: |
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yep i think i agree with you totally there..... it started out really promising but then it just got a little too sexual for my liking .... especially with the whole semi-incestuous (sp?) relationship of Theo/Isabelle.
Anyway like you said it just could have been so much better.
oh and the lead character was called Michael _________________ Pirates 3 - MAY 25th 2007!!! |
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lostzilla Expert Vidder
Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 7246 Location: Gallactica
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:10 am Post subject: |
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I have the DVD, Eva Green is one hot mother.
That's all I can say. _________________
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fallen_angel Advanced Vidder
Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Posts: 4376 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:18 am Post subject: |
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and........... she's also the new Bond girl
Nate did you just buy this movie... for the nakedness _________________ Pirates 3 - MAY 25th 2007!!! |
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SuperKC Expert Vidder
Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 3667 Location: On a Stick
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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You sure you're not confusing that with the guy who played him? I'm at school right now and don't have time to look it up. But I do know that the lead actor is Michael Pitt.
I didn't know she was gonna be the new bond girl. Thanks for that info.
Always gotta poke fun at Nate don't we? |
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fallen_angel Advanced Vidder
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:42 am Post subject: |
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my bad the characters name is Matthew... i did get confused coz it's his real name
it's fun to poke fun at Nate... I know that if he gets pissed off he'll let me know _________________ Pirates 3 - MAY 25th 2007!!! |
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