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loudpaw Intermediate Vidder

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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 5:59 am Post subject: Weird Stuff I've noticed |
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OK so I watched all 4 seasons over again, and I've noticed some weird stuff.
1) In Outlaws Sawyer has the flashback of when his mother and father are killed. I always watch LOST in subtitles, dunno why. Any way, on the subtitles say Sawyer's mothers name is Brooke, but in The Brig when Sawyer finally meets Anthony Cooper he says his mother's name was Mary...what's up with that? Might be just a production error, but it sure bugs me.
2) In The Shapes Of Things Too Come when Keamy makes Alex turn off the sonic fence thingy she says ::
Quote: | Please they have a baby with them, don't hurt him |
Could it've been possible that she was pregnant??? Ben did mention in Confirmed Dead that Karl and Alex were sleeping together, direct quote::
Quote: | Ben: Alex, please listen to me.
Karl: Shut up Mr.Linus
Ben: Karl, if your going to sleep with my daughter, then I prefer you call me Ben. |
Just a thought...
So have you noticed anything weird in LOST??? Maybe I should re-phrase that, have you noticed anything...unanswered, or something that made you generally confused??? _________________ \~/Annie\~/
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littleton_pace Council Member

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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:28 am Post subject: |
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not sure this is really "Spoilers" but it's a great topic
I've never noticed that thing about Sawyer's mum Perhaps just one of those things they forget. Or it's possible that the person who did the subtitles thought the name was 'Brooke" when someone said "cook" or something. I've noticed that A LOT in shows like CSI
Alex could have been pregnant I guess, i never thought of it...that would've been a cool storyline, Ben wanting to save his daughter from the Island and all
There's one that I've always wondered about, its from Raised By Another in Claire's flashback when she finds out she's pregnant and thomas says they should raise the baby. Claire says:
Claire: My mum would disown me.
Thomas: She basically has already.
At that stage in the show, Claire's mother's still in a coma, she has been since Claire was a teenager. So either Thomas is being kind of callous to her or it's a continuity error
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I'm gonna move this to the regular Show Talk thread since there's no spoiler talk of season 5 here  _________________
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loudpaw Intermediate Vidder

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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:45 am Post subject: LOL |
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Okay I thought this section was where we didn't have to put spoiler tags anywhere, I didn't know it was just for season 5 ^^; _________________ \~/Annie\~/
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littleton_pace Council Member

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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:50 am Post subject: |
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yeah, but you need something to spoiler and since seasons 1-4 have all been released everywhere, they're not spoilerable and dont need to be in that thread, if you know what I mean Anything about season 5 and onwards, which hasn't been released yet and people *me inlcluded* dont wanna read up on it, goes in the Spoilers thread tag free  _________________
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nikkimonique Expert Vidder

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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Claire: My mum would disown me.
Thomas: She basically has already.
At that stage in the show, Claire's mother's still in a coma, she has been since Claire was a teenager. So either Thomas is being kind of callous to her or it's a continuity error
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I noticed that too Kat...I figured that at the time they hadn't planned for Claire's mom to be in a coma and then later they probably thought...oh well...people won't notice and if they do we can just say Thomas is a jerk...
What has always bugged me is how Kate says, "I almost had a baby, Kev." in that scene in "I do." The phrasing makes no sense ...makes it sound like she almost had a baby in the past and lost it...not that she thought she was pregnant but wasn't  _________________
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littleton_pace Council Member

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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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yeah, that one gets me too nikki "I thought I was pregnant" would be a better line; definitely more accurate :S and then something like "Can you imagine? Me, a baby!" wouldnt have affected the scene and she gets her point across  _________________
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IamSoLostRightNow Expert Vidder

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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:40 am Post subject: |
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Okay, this one eerks me to no end:
In Season 1 "White Rabbit" Charlie wakes up Jack to go after the girl who is drowning in the ocean yelling after him "I can't swim! I can't swim!"
If he can't swim, then why in "Greatest Hits" do we see a flashback of Charlie learning how to swim? Why does he all of a sudden become the "junior swim champion in Northern England?"
The only solution I can think of is that he lied in "White Rabbit" to hide the fact that he was high off of Heroin and couldn't save the girl from drowning. _________________
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littleton_pace Council Member

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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:54 am Post subject: |
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IamSoLostRightNow wrote: | Okay, this one eerks me to no end:
In Season 1 "White Rabbit" Charlie wakes up Jack to go after the girl who is drowning in the ocean yelling after him "I can't swim! I can't swim!"
If he can't swim, then why in "Greatest Hits" do we see a flashback of Charlie learning how to swim? Why does he all of a sudden become the "junior swim champion in Northern England?"
The only solution I can think of is that he lied in "White Rabbit" to hide the fact that he was high off of Heroin and couldn't save the girl from drowning. |
ooh, nice theory with the heroin. that one sticks out to me too :S the champ of northern england thing was what annoyed me more :S the thing i liked about Charlie not swimming was that in Fire+Water, he swims in his dream. but that seemed to be abandoned by season 3 :S:S:S but i agree it was very sudden :S
One i just remembered cos i was watching the latest season back, is why isn't Kate's dad (or stepfather to be technical) Sam there to greet her when she gets off the plane with Aaron? They land at like an army base, plus last he saw her they were on good terms, well as opposed to her and her mother that is. I get why Diane wasn't there being terminally ill and all; but why not Sam? i guess it's to symbolize that Kate is alone; but it wouldnt make sense. And for that matter, Kevin should be there too :S as mad as he was at her; surely he'd be thrilled his ex was alive? He's a cop; he'd recognize her picture, Kate/Monica whoever  _________________
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Jemmz Council Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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I've noticed some of these things too. I reckon they're just errors. But I have a few out there explanations =p
About the Claire/Thomas thing. All I can think of is that Claire didn't tell Thomas that her mum was in a coma. Perhaps she was covering it up for some reason? So she says "my mum will disown me" and Thomas says "she basically has already" because to him, Claire's mum already appears to have disowned her ie not calling/seeing her when REALLY she's in a coma. Wow, I don't think I explained that well at all.
The Charlie swimming thing....Well, he in fact said "I don't swim" which could perhaps change the meaning? He CAN swim, he just doesn't like to? I have to say, the heroin thing sounds more likely though.
I always wanted to know why everyone is called some form of Thomas....Claire's boyfriend Thomas, Charlie's druggie friend Tommy, wasn't it Kate's childhood sweetheart that was called Tom? And the fake name Christian gives Ana was Tom, wasn't it? |
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littleton_pace Council Member

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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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ooh, yeah, jemmz ;P i noticed a lot of Tom's ;P Claire's tom, charlie's tommy, Kate's friend Tom, beardy Tom, and Christians alias Tom ive always wondered if there's something more to that or maybe its just an inside joke with the writers, maybe a few of them have sons named Tom or something  _________________
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NepEnut Expert Vidder

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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:57 pm Post subject: Re: Weird Stuff I've noticed |
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loudpaw wrote: | 2) In The Shapes Of Things Too Come when Keamy makes Alex turn off the sonic fence thingy she says ::
Quote: | Please they have a baby with them, don't hurt him |
Could it've been possible that she was pregnant??? Ben did mention in Confirmed Dead that Karl and Alex were sleeping together, direct quote::
Quote: | Ben: Alex, please listen to me.
Karl: Shut up Mr.Linus
Ben: Karl, if your going to sleep with my daughter, then I prefer you call me Ben. |
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I can solve this mystery for you. Alex wasn't pregnant. She was referring to Aaron, who was at the barracks with everyone else. She didn't want the evil mercs to hurt anyone and thought if she mentioned they had a baby, they might back off
Oh and Kat - I think the reason Kate's dad wasn't there was because he was off fighting in Iraq. I swear I heard something about this somewhere.... Maybe Darlton mentioned it one time....I dunno.... _________________
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Sheree Advanced Vidder

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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | There's one that I've always wondered about, its from Raised By Another in Claire's flashback when she finds out she's pregnant and thomas says they should raise the baby. Claire says:
Claire: My mum would disown me.
Thomas: She basically has already.
At that stage in the show, Claire's mother's still in a coma, she has been since Claire was a teenager. So either Thomas is being kind of callous to her or it's a continuity error |
I thought that the first time too but then because of how her Aunt acted towards her when her mom was first brought into the hospital after the accident - that they were never that close to begin with. I just made the assumption that Thomas was told by Claire that her Aunt was her mom and he had no idea that her actual Mom was in a coma. Claire felt guilty about the accident and just let him think what she felt was best for everyone. And Thomas knowing that Claire and his Aunt(Mom) weren't close - made it easier for Claire to keep up with the lie. Did that make sense?  _________________ Icon made by~http://leucocrystal.livejournal.com/
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IamSoLostRightNow Expert Vidder

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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:46 am Post subject: |
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littleton_pace wrote: | i noticed a lot of Tom's ;P Claire's tom, charlie's tommy, Kate's friend Tom, beardy Tom, and Christians alias Tom ive always wondered if there's something more to that or maybe its just an inside joke with the writers, maybe a few of them have sons named Tom or something  |
Does anyone else find it disturbing that when Ana Lucia and Christian were picking names for each other, Christian chose to call Ana Lucia "Sarah" which is the name of Jack's ex-wife. I always thought that was kind of suspicious/creepy of him to do.
Also as far as Kate/Monica and Kevin go, I'm always curious as to whether or not he'd track her down. I mean, he obviously recognizes her from the news and he was in love with her. I'd love to see a meeting between them in the future. _________________
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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 6:23 am Post subject: |
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IamSoLostRightNow wrote: | littleton_pace wrote: | i noticed a lot of Tom's ;P Claire's tom, charlie's tommy, Kate's friend Tom, beardy Tom, and Christians alias Tom ive always wondered if there's something more to that or maybe its just an inside joke with the writers, maybe a few of them have sons named Tom or something  |
Does anyone else find it disturbing that when Ana Lucia and Christian were picking names for each other, Christian chose to call Ana Lucia "Sarah" which is the name of Jack's ex-wife. I always thought that was kind of suspicious/creepy of him to do.
Also as far as Kate/Monica and Kevin go, I'm always curious as to whether or not he'd track her down. I mean, he obviously recognizes her from the news and he was in love with her. I'd love to see a meeting between them in the future. |
yeah, i always thought that Christian calling Ana "Sarah" is a direct reference to Jack's Sarah, since in Tale Of Two Cities Jack finds out that Christian's number is in Sarah's mobile phone Maybe he's the father of her baby from that Jack ff in through the looking glass? lol
im on board with you with Kate/Kevin, he remains the only man in the show Kate has ever said "I love you" to, so you'd think one of them might take initiative and look for the other. I had this theory that maybe Kate would be with Kevin in the future and he might think Aaron was is own son and Kate was pregnant when she ran off, but i looked it up and they were married like two years before the crash :S still; i really wanna see Kevin again He definitely woul know she's Kate Austen now
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I thought that the first time too but then because of how her Aunt acted towards her when her mom was first brought into the hospital after the accident - that they were never that close to begin with. I just made the assumption that Thomas was told by Claire that her Aunt was her mom and he had no idea that her actual Mom was in a coma. Claire felt guilty about the accident and just let him think what she felt was best for everyone. And Thomas knowing that Claire and his Aunt(Mom) weren't close - made it easier for Claire to keep up with the lie. Did that make sense?  |
Ooh, that does make sense since Claire and Lindsey never seem to get along, and you do get the feeling Lindsey raised her somewhat after her mother died cos Christian goes to the house to see her...altho he hadnt been there since Claire was a baby so he might just think she lives there when she hasn't in years... Either way; i wish we'd seen more into Claire's background; everyone else seems to have a pretty certain parental heritage except Claire :S:S _________________
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SassyLostie2 Expert Vidder

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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:11 am Post subject: |
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IamSoLostRightNow wrote: | Does anyone else find it disturbing that when Ana Lucia and Christian were picking names for each other, Christian chose to call Ana Lucia "Sarah" which is the name of Jack's ex-wife. I always thought that was kind of suspicious/creepy of him to do. |
I know! I thought that too! The whole Sarah thing was a bit odd. I swear I was the only one who thought those Ana/Christian flashbacks was leading to some type of...romantic something between them. Even if it was nothing physical, something mentioned at least? But there wasn't.
I noticed the Tom thing as well. So many Toms! And the Charlie not being able to swim thing. The heroin theory would be decent, if they were going to still hint at it, or had Charlie around... but now that he's gone... It seems like something they would have said while he was alive. Like something he'd confess to Claire or something. But they're never really going to tell us the truth, I think. xD So... I'm guessing it's either a goof, or we're missing something else obvious.
And LOL Kat at the "Christian's the father of Sarah's baby" theory. xD I have a feeling there's some time issues with that. But wow, how creepy would that be?  _________________
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