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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Becca, I'm with you: I'd love to know how that was done! It's probably something my Baby Vegas can't do but I'd still love to know about it anyway!



I think it's maybe rather difficult as not many videos seem to use it. Or maybe people just don't know about it
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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hi again, sorry for asking many questions, but i'm still trying to learn how to use vegas! Anyway, my question is: how can i make my video to be a smaller file, like 40 MB and not 900 MB?


Hiya *waves* No trouble at all. Just tweak the setting when you render. You'll most likely want to render the video as a WMV or an MPEG. Also, if you have a lot of layers, this will cause the file size to be pretty big. I find that if my rendered video comes out big, I'll compress it again using either Vegas again or Doctor DivX.

Hope that helps!

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Does anybody know how to like selective colouring in vegas?

I think it's maybe rather difficult as not many videos seem to use it. Or maybe people just don't know about it


It's called "rotoscoping". I posted a tutorial video a while back but was told it wasn't the what they were asking for. It was, they just didn't watch it all the way through. Here's a better one. It demonstrates how to get that "Pleasantville" effect where all the video is black and white, and only a selective piece has color.

Ais, not sure if you can do this with Baby Vegas, it requires masking and I think you said yours doesn't have that.
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Steph! That website is very helpful. I guessed it would be something like that or a plug-in effect.
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fjorton wrote:
hi again, sorry for asking many questions, but i'm still trying to learn how to use vegas! Anyway, my question is: how can i make my video to be a smaller file, like 40 MB and not 900 MB?


Don't worry at all, we ALL start off by having to ask a bunch of questions! Don't hesitate to ask away, that's what we're here for!

Steph already answered your question but here's a bit more about it in case you're interested. The size of your overall vid and the file format you're saving it into are the most likely things that are making your vid come out gigantic in size. So make sure first thing that when you go to render it, that you're using .WMV or MPEG as Steph suggested. (I've used .WMV on all of my vids so far.) Then you can go into the Custom setting before you start the rendering and check a few other settings. Here's what KajaM recommends:

KajaM wrote:
Those are the two settings I usually use:

either:
Windows Media Video V9
Video rendering quality: Best
Audio: 80kbps, 44kHz
Image size: 320x240
Pixel aspect ratio: 1,000 (square)
Frame rate: 29,970 (NTSC)
Quality: 90 or 93%


or:
Windows Media Video V9
Video rendering quality: Best
Audio: 80kbps, 44kHz
Image size: 320x240
Pixel aspect ratio: 1,333 (HD 1080)
Frame rate: 29,970 (NTSC)
Quality: 90 or 93%


The second one makes the whole vid look bigger and if you select 90 or 93% as quality rate, the size will be in between 10 to 30MB (depeding on the lenght of the vid, the effects you used etc.). I'd recommend 93%


Here's what I use for mine:

Aislynn wrote:
Here's what I use...

Windows Media Video V9
Video rendering quality: Best
Audio: 64kbps, 44kHz
Image size: 428x240 (keep original size)
Pixel aspect ratio: 1,000 (square)
Frame rate: 30,000
Quality: 90%


Hopefully somewhere in all of that will be something that can help you!

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Ais, not sure if you can do this with Baby Vegas, it requires masking and I think you said yours doesn't have that.


Rotoscoping, cool! I loved that website link, Steph, thanks so much for that! You're right, Baby Vegas can't mask so I can't rotoscope, which is a bummer because it definitely appeals to the amateur animator in me, lol! But I still love seeing how it's done! Thanks a bunch!
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Steph, Aislynn and KajaM for helping me! I know how to do it now
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rbexter93 wrote:
Does anybody know how to like selective colouring in vegas?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jA_ODApajz8

Go to 0:34 that's what I want to do but I really am clueless.

Thank yous in advance.


I'm not sure if this will work as well but its what I use in vegas 7. Chose the colour corrector (secondary) and choose desaturate all but red; that makes everything red in the vid coloured while the other colours are grayed. but it tends to make faces coloured as well. you could always use mask and make one version of the clip completely greyscale then mask around whatever you want. could look a little messy tho.


Ive seen this done in a few vids and i got no idea how to do it. Borders; how do i make one that only has the top and bottom layer bordered, not the whole thing? Joon's "She's Got Issues" vid has one for comparison
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*checks* Darn it, Baby Vegas doesn't have the Color Corrector, either. *pets Baby Vegas before it thinks I don't love it anymore*

And about the border... Huh, I've still never tried actually using one of Vegas' borders so I don't know how that would work. But I would imagine you could do it the old fashioned way and make a border with however many sides and such that you'd like in a program like Paintshop or Photoshop, then make the center of it blue, red or green (whatever color isn't in your border ), then just overlay it over your vid tracks and Chroma key out the blue, red or green so that just the border is left.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Vegas smarties!

I'm hoping someone can help me with a question. I've just started getting into Vegas - downloaded the trial version and then was bad and decided to acquire the full program by *ahem* other means....

(I apologize if it's been mentioned before - I'm extraordinarily lazy right now, so going back through posts is the last thing I want to do ) So anyways, my question is thus:

Most of the time, I use WMM to make videos, and I the thing I actually *do* like about it is how it will automatically create clips from your video file, making it easier to find snippets to work with. Can Vegas do the same thing, or do you have to create your mini-clips manually?

I think I need to start playing with the trimmer a little more. I still don't quite fully get how that works...
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately, you do have to do that manually. Kind of annoying, but I think it's worth it to have all the effects in Vegas.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NepEnut wrote:
(I apologize if it's been mentioned before - I'm extraordinarily lazy right now, so going back through posts is the last thing I want to do ) So anyways, my question is thus:

Most of the time, I use WMM to make videos, and I the thing I actually *do* like about it is how it will automatically create clips from your video file, making it easier to find snippets to work with. Can Vegas do the same thing, or do you have to create your mini-clips manually?

I think I need to start playing with the trimmer a little more. I still don't quite fully get how that works...


You do have to use the trimmer to create your clips, which is one of the hardest adjustments I had to make from WMM to Vegas, I think, but like Elyse said, it's worth it for all of the trade-offs that Vegas can do once you learn your way around it!

Here's the Sony All-In-One Help thread which will save you from having to try and look through this thread here. It has all of the tutorials and answers gathered into one handy-dandy place with an index in the first post to try and help make it easier to navigate. The very first one talks about the trimmer. If you have any further questions, don't hesitate to ask!
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't know where to put this enquiry but I've recently ripped a DVD in order to make a vid on Sony Vegas but when I open it up it only has audio and I can watch the clips fine on Windows Media Player. But for some strange reason the Sony Vegas won't open the video The ripped DVD is in .avi format- could that be the issue?
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cagedfreedom, your problem is the .avi files. For some reason Vegas won't work with them. Sorry!
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But I'm sure that the clips I download off here and other websites are in .avi format? Should I re-rip the film then, using which format?
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, most of them on here are wmv.
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CF, here's some information about getting Vegas to work with .AVI files. It will do it but it can be tricky.

Check here to read about using the FourCC Code Changer. My advice though, if at all possible, is to make a copy of your file first until you see if it's going to work correctly, because once you use the FourCC on it, you can't undo it. And I for one have it mess my files up before!

To read more about the FourCC Code Changer and about why .AVI files don't always work right, see here, in particular Fan4Lost's post.

And if none of that works, see if you can get it to import properly into Windows Movie Maker. If it will, then you can render it into .WMV (which you might have to do in pieces if WMM doesn't want to render something as long as a movie, if that's what this is). Or you can render out just certain scenes, if you know which ones you need.

Hope you're able to get it all to work!
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