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| The Office |
Author:
MovieGuy ::
Posted:
Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:20 am
It's so sad that so many people still refuse to watch it. It's so different now from what the UK one was.  it's quite possibly the funniest show on the air in the US right now... unless you're one of those "Desperate Housewives" types. 
So, does anyone watch it? I know Marcus watches it. 
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| All-Encompassing Theories |
Author:
Hobbes ::
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Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:02 am
I have an all-encompassing theory now
The island is an illegal secret testing facility for experimentation on humans. The Dharma Initiative's goals are overall what we'd consider good. To extend the human lives, to end world hunger, etc etc. However, they aren't afraid to do whatever is necessary, including experimentation on humans, to do what is needed for the greater good.
The survivors are the rat cage. They are the material the Others need for their experiments, and pull from for necessary experiments (thus why the odd child is so important, because they don't see many, and use them for special experiments, or as recruits to the Dharma Initiative like Alex). The survivors themselves, as a group, are not being tested on right now, but are just the base the others can pull from when they need.
Everything else on the island is designed to keep the survivors from fighting back, and to keep them busy. The hatches are merely just little semi-abandoned bases the others used to use, but have converted for practical means. The Arrow is a storage facility, as Goodwin said, the Swan is designed to keep the subject occupied, at least when they're just small numbers of people (like Desmond) because they can't possibly leave when scared into pressing it every two hours, and the new Caduceus hatch is the Other's base for their fear operations and just a small provisions camp. I suspect we'll be likely to see a underwater hatch soon enough to sink and destroy any incoming or outgoing boat traffic, whether via the Dharma shark, or whatever, and would have probably been used on the rafties if they'd escaped Mr. Friendly's attempt to get Walt, a valuable test subject, first.
The monster is a swarm of nanobots: an unrealistic technically, but acceptable with TV and movies and that sort of thing, Hollywood-style thing to grab our attention. It does a have a purpose of keeping the survivors afraid to explore the island. I speculate that it may not have actually killed the pilot either, but it was part of a "skit" to make them think it was deadly.
The backup for all of this towards keeping the survivors from going out there is the others and their costume patrol, along with the voices in the woods, designed to make it seem like there is an all-knowing menacing foe out there to get them if they go out. I doubt it was planned to happen, but ended up due to special circumstances that I will now list:
The plan was to split the plane into two camps which then could be weeded down easier without worrying about a large group. They could then infiltrate them, learn what subjects would be suitable for particular tests, and put them on the "list" before taking them from the camp. Their plan worked out well in the Tailies side of the island, but I doubt they expected anyone to find out about the infiltration, or for them to regroup with the Fusies section. In the fusies section, Ethan was driven off before he could complete the list, as we learned today, so they didn't know who to take. Furthermore, when Claire was recovered, and the fusies killed Ethan when he came back to try and get her back, their connection was lost so no more info. They only knew their names because Ethan knew their names, and they may have gotten ahold of some Oceanic stuff, but otherwise, no.
This causes a problem, because not only have they not managed to take these people down to a more manageable number, but with nothing to fight them really, except a monster that doesn't do much more than scare, they are starting to find stuff out. Some of them are happening to find hidden hatches and step in on their experiment with Desmond.
The plane crash was preorchestrated. They wanted it to turn around and change course by cutting its radio, thus meaning they couldn't pinpoint where it landed and go looking near the island. The actual crash was either planned with inside men in the form of the pilot (explaining the monster "skit") and flight attendants (explaining Cindy's disappearance as well) and a bomb which caused the plane split apart, or the simpler way: the monster crashed it for them. Whatever the case may be, it turns out with a fresh supply of assorted survivors in a semi-realistic fashion so they don't "think" it's too weird that they survived (because they would be REALLY suspicious if everyone lived, of course) but there is still a good enough amount to have lots of fodder for future experiments. With the pilot and flight attendant in on it, you can also lie about the height of the plane or whatever, thus causing a "safer" crash.
ALSO: could someone check for me the deleted scene form the DVD with Claire and the pilot? If she mentions Catch a Falling Star in that, that’s my final piece of evidence 
The polar bear and horse can be attributed to simply being experiments, or in the case of the polar bear, just designed to keep the survivors in fear, and confused as to what's going on. Alternatively, they could be from a zoo plane that crashed or something similar. Likely a red herring in my view though.
Speaking of red herrings: the connections in the flashbacks, the numbers showing up places, and any other unexplainable supernatural stuff. The numbers themselves I speculate to be the Dharma Initiative's code for the island, especially since when entered in a certain format equal coordinates just about at the right spot in the south pacific. They're on everything as a sort of "brand" similar to the dharma logo brands, used to signify that the piece of equipment should be at that location. It's also the code for the vaccination, and is entered during the computer experiments more as a memory tool for Desmond to remember his vaccinations than anything.
Speaking of vaccinations! We finally get to the meat of it all: the incident and the sickness. So far we have no proof whatsoever that it is real, only Danielle's word, but that does not mean it is the sickness per say, and that it wasn't an isolated incident that got her crew sick. Perhaps the incident was a release of a disease pathogen onto the island that infected. Though whether that pathogen stayed forever or just at that time 16 years ago is still unknown. Which means either the vaccinations for Desmond and Claire are simply devices to scare them into what they want (such as for Desmond not to leave the hatch, or Claire to believe they only have enough vaccine for her baby) or as a custom to actually save their lives, either as just a custom that doesn't need doing anymore, as the pathogens aren't there anymore, but it's just as a precaution, or as something everyone needs, and we just haven't seen the signs in the normal survivors yet. I personally think the device route is most likely, as it gets what they want: fear.
As for the black rock, the rope bridges at weird places, Locke's legs, visions and the like, I like to go with the ideas given on the show. The Black Rock was thrown on the island by a twister, as Arzt said and the bridges built by Rousseau’s team or the others, Locke just happened to get his legs back by a miracle and the impact of falling that far, and the visions are just a phenomenon like they are in our society now.
In regard to mysteries of the hatch, the concrete wall holds a nuclear generator which supplies power to the hatch, and possibly other hatches and the radio tower. The radio tower transmits the numbers as they are entered into the computer by Desmond and his predecessors, telling supply ships where to head out in the process, and in the meantime attracting some ships thinking it's a distress signal for further experimentation. (hazy, but that'll do lol). And the computer is more than just an entry for the numbers, as seen by Michael, it's a communication device once used, but then was retired as just the number entry code. However, it was used again to lure Michael into a trap so that the others could lay down the law and scare some sense into Jack and Locke, hoping for them to back down. Henry Gale is obviously another Other out to spy, even if he manages to actually have a balloon out there, I suspect it was planted by the Others for a full backstory the survivors can't deny.
With so much to hide, the Dharma Initiative has to keep all matter of being found completely covered. A artificial magnetic field probably can't really help much in this way, but probably enough in the Hollywood way to make it a valuable addition to this.
What all the theories on the experiments come down to is: why would Dharma spend BILLIONS of dollars for what they are doing here? Surely even a private research facility isn't worth that much. However, it seems that with the added bonus of above-the-law testing, particularly on live human test subjects, the prospect of a science research facility away from the law seems worth the costs. Especially if they have the disillusion that what they are doing is for the good of mankind. What's a few lives here or there when in the long run they can "Save the world" as Kelvin put it.
What really just can't be solved in any way by this though, is how does Eko's brother and that plane fit into all of it? How could that possibly happen? Also, what exact experiments are these others doing, and how are the people being used? What is the trait that makes a person “good†for the experiments? Maybe we will find out the answers to these questions, but for now I have what I have.
Let me know if you have a counter arguement or anythign that doesn't work with that I've got and I'll change thigns around. Likewise, if oyu want to post your all-encompassing theories, or have one simillar to mine but with some revisions, go ahead! Ug... tired.  but it's cool to actually get everything fitting together for once... kinda.
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| Late Night Insanity |
Author:
Distress Signal ::
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Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:24 am
Okay, I got this idea in my head while watching the beginning on tonight's Maternity Leave, when Jack was talking to Claire about the baby, and I noticed (at least to myself) that Jack looked a lot like Kermit the frog at the one part, and I thought "why don't I made Jack's skin green and make a freaky banner!!"
....well, I don't think this turned out nearly as funny/creepy as I wanted it to be, but it couldn't hurt posting it, could it?
The reason behind it is that Jack looked like Kermit and I've had lots of nightmares about Kermit the frog as a child. I'm sorry his little manip picture doesn't do justice. 
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| Cheesy Inspirational Music |
Author:
Distress Signal ::
Posted:
Thu Mar 02, 2006 3:15 am
There's a song that's really popular and heard of that I want a use for a kind of humorous video, but I don't remember who did it. It might have originated from Rocky, but I remember it most in Bruce Almighty at the beginning when Jim Carrey says, "Turn on that cheesy inspirational music!" and starts running with a milk carton pouring it into the kids' cups.
Can anyone tell me what's it's from so that I might be able to download the entire song? Thanks. 
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| 2x15 - "Maternity Leave" Episode Discussion |
Author:
Hobbes ::
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Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:47 am
Talk about today's new episode. Beware of spoilers of aired material! Airs 9:00 PM Eastern.
S2E15 - Maternity Leave
A desperate Claire, along with Kate and Rousseau, attempts a return to the scene of her kidnapping where she believes she might find the cure for Baby Aaron''s mysterious illness. Meanwhile, Jack and Locke must keep their prisoner a secret from the rest of the survivors.
(bear with me, I don't know where LC gets her episode guide stuff  but it's good.)
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