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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:45 pm    Post subject: Minnesota Teen Reply with quote

I have been reading a lot about the kid who committed that mass homicide/suicide in Minnesota these last couple of days thanks to a friend who is obsessively interested in stuff like that and of course she gives me links and of course I CAN'T. STOP. READING!

Anyway, Jeff Weise was pretty active on the internet so there are traces of him all over the place, but I thought THIS would be of particular interest to the LVI crowd. He made a flash movie, which is pretty foreshadowing and also disturbing. Here's the article by the Smoking Gun and in there you can find a link to the movie:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0323051weise1.html

He posted at some conspiracy website and they have catalogued his posts here: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/weise.html


And here are a couple of interesting things I extracted.

On Suicide:
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I think most people who say this type of thing have never dealt with people who HAVE faced the kind of pain that makes you phsyically sick at times, makes you so depressed you can't function, makes you so sad and overwhelmed with grief that eating a bullet or sticking your head in a noose seem's welcoming.

If you think you're better than those who take their own lives; you're not. If you think you're stronger than those who have taken their own lives; your not.

It takes courage to turn the gun on your ownself, takes courage to face death. Knowing you're going to die and actually following through takes heart, I don't care who you are.



On being accused of plotting a school shooting last year:
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They pegged me as a possible school shooter earlier this year, or wait, that was last month.

Apparently someone was supposed to shoot up the school on 4/20, and there was alot of buzz around me, and for good reasons I guess.

I wear combat boots (with my pant legs tucked into them), wear a trench coat, and at the last basketball game my friend Mac, (who happens to wear a black trench coat like mine), did a "Sieg Heil" during the national anthem (for shock value), so they had us pegged as "Trench Coat Mafia." My "friend" Rose even said that I fit the profile of a school shooter that she saw on 60 minutes. They also pinned it on me because 4/20 happens to be Adolf Hitlers birthday, and I seem to be the only one who promotes National Socialist beliefs (not the stereotypical "White Power" bs you hear racists shouting, either). So it's not hard to label a school shooter.

I happen to be "not so popular," Gothic (in the sense that I wear nothing but black, spike my hair in "devil" horns, and listen to music like Cradle of Filth and KoRn), and happen to be an emotionally disturbed person, if you could call me that. So it's really no problem slapping a label on someone because they fit the stereotype. And no, I wasn't the one who did the threat. On "Game day" (4/20) the Feds were all around the place, watching, cop cars on nearly every corner around the school and a few large unmarked black vans sitting around, I bet they were on standby. So they WERE prepared for something to happen.

(PS,
I'm not a white supremecist, can't even spell it, I'm a Native American, Ojibwa, living on the Redlake Indian Reservation in Minnesota, and lets not have this turn into a hardcore political discussion about my political ideals, ok? )
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for posting this. That was really interesting reading his posts. I was thinking, more and more people who come up in the news will have an 'internet trail' like that. It really does give you an insight into who they are. Much better than any news article can.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I completely agree. What's so scary about this kid IMO is that reading those posts and his livejournal he seemed so typical of what you see on the online journalling/message boarding communities from kids his age. It's all startlingly similar to so many other journals/blogs I've seen in the past.

My friend that I mentioned who was checking out all of this to begin with, said what shocked her most was how articlate he seemed and how well-written his posts are for the most part. But to me, the startling thing is how easily his dark moods just seem to fall right in line with the youth of today. I was in high school when Columbine took place and I knew kids like this.

We had a "shooting scare" when one of my classmates was discovered to use "imgonnakilleveryoneinthisschool" for his computer password and other whisperings. Instead of treating him like dirt, our entire class signed a petition to allow him to come back to school with us. In hindsight, you have to wonder, what would have happened if, instead of rallying around him in support, we had turned our backs on him? I personally don't think he was capable of something terrible like that, but how many people chatting with Jeff Weise would ever think he'd do such a thing until he actually did?
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