Lost Video Island

Jemmz · Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:03 pm Post subject:

You're right, there's definitely a lot of stuff that just DOESN'T make sense, and I'm waiting for it to be explained and it hasn't been :S:S

I've just been waiting for Henry or someone to go "do you remember how you got here? Do you remember going to school here?" etc etc and then they might remember...of course I know it won't be that easy, but if I still don't get how they are so convinced by their new identities if they don't have any false memories O_O

Polarbear · Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:10 pm Post subject:

Yeah.. that seriously needs to be the first thing they explain... the lost memories and all that. Do they have any fake memories or have they just been forced to forget?

I really hope they humanise Regina a bit more. I like her a lot she's my favourite

Funny how I like the villain the best.
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HobbitRockGod · Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:53 am Post subject:

I feel like it's kind of like Inception, when they feel like they know how they got there but they don't really remember. I think if they tried to remember they would realize that they don't.

Honestly, it's a fairy tale. It doesn't have to make sense. And I think we should be able to keep a "reasonable suspension of disbelief" (which is a theatre term but I think it applies to anything fictional). On Lost they didn't really explain where the island came from or why it was so hard to find for a LONG time. So I don't think we need to worry about where Storybrooke came from quite yet.
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Im1oftheOceanic6 · Expert Vidder Joined: 23 Jun 2008 Posts: 3705

Jemmz · Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:08 pm Post subject:

It's not that I want to know HOW they got there. Although we kind of already know a spell sent them there, right? I just don't understand how they can't NOT know...and I can't see a good reason for keeping it a secret unless it's an exceptionally interesting reason, although why would it be? They either have false memories or they don't and if not, why don't they think that's strange??

It's just frustrating

emmasholi · Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:21 pm Post subject:

HobbitRockGod · Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:47 pm Post subject:

Jemmz · Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:54 pm Post subject:

If I'm honest, I much prefer the fairy tale land stuff to the real life stuff.

Im1oftheOceanic6 · Expert Vidder Joined: 23 Jun 2008 Posts: 3705

I think the reason the characters don't remember their fairy tale pasts is because of the curse. I think part of the curse was to supress those memories and to leave the characters with a void.They seem to have been in this town unaging for years, so I think they have false memories that make them think life has always been this way.

I think the reason they don't question their memories or lack there of is actually not that far fetched. Just like real life you may have a strong belief in something and left unchallenged you will keep that belief. But if something challenges that belief, you'll have to examine it and ask yourself if you still believe. In Storybrooke they have had a sheltered existance, no one has challenged that life. Now Henry and Emma are challenging what these people have always thought was true. Now they are starting to realize their belief of the life they have,may not be true.

I think of the memory issue like the sideways storyline on Lost.Until they were 'awoken' they had all built these lives with memories and people (like Jack's son David) that weren't real.

I think to an extent the lives that they have in Storybrooke show their desires for some of the same things they once had in Fairytale land. For examples:
Regina- she wanted power so she is the Mayor. She also named her son Henry after her father in the other world,perhaps as a way to have an incarnation of that person in her life. Mr. Gold- he is still striving for power over people, making crooked deals just as he did as Rumplestiltskin.
Snow white had Prince Charming in the fairytale world, this time she was always working at the hospital, like she knew subconsciously he was there. In the fairytale world Cinderella was about to have to give up her child and lost her prince so in the real world she was able to keep her baby and she regained her relationship with her boyfriend (the prince). I think we would find that the things each character desires most in the fairytale land are the same things they have somehow created for themselves in the real world.

I wonder if there will come a time in the story when they have to chose if they wish to return to Fairytale land or stay in Storybrooke?

Macaila

Polarbear · Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:52 am Post subject:

Im1oftheOceanic6 · Expert Vidder Joined: 23 Jun 2008 Posts: 3705

I finally got a chance to watch the episode a few days ago.

Jiminy ended up being a little more interesting than I expected.

The fact the crickets were abscent from Storybrooke made me wonder what other ordinary, everyday things are also missing from the town.

So if the show continues with the theme of adapting Disney movies, does that mean the dalmation we saw in the episode is one of the 101 dalmations

Here's a small article from Watch With Kristen about the show:
http://www.eonline.com/news/watch_with_kristin/why_once_upon_time_like_buffy_plus_just/278074

Accoring to it

Spoiler:

What was that at the end of the episode. I really couldn't make it out. Are we supposed to get that what Regina picked up was part of the coffin? Is a coffin what we were supposed to be seeing at the end of the episode?

I thought it was kind of funny that the old mine looked alot like the hatch.And the dog finding the airshaft, just like Vincent alerting everyone that Jack and Charlie were emerging from the cave-in.

I think that mine had to be the one the 7 dwarves worked in back in the fairy tale world.

Those people being turned into puppets was creepy.I've never liked that kind of puppets,this just made them even creepier.I wonder if once the curse if lifted if they will be returned to people.

Prince Charming's dog, Ajax. I think that was also the name on the liquor Jack had when he awoke in the jungle in the pilot of Lost. Of course the name also had mythological and other meanings.There is something with it though because why mention a dog's name 2 or 3 times unless they want us to catch something.

Macaila

Im1oftheOceanic6 · Expert Vidder Joined: 23 Jun 2008 Posts: 3705

Tonight's episode had a few not so subtle Lost references. The McCutchen (I know I'm butchering the spelling of that) liquor bottle was perhaps the most obvious. Then we saw that David lived at the address 44, which was briefly shown as just a 4. Plus we got to see Alan Dale, playing a less evil character than his Lost counterpart.

I am getting the feeling that they plan on dragging out the Mary Margret/David storyline for awhile.I don't think these two are going to get together for awhile.It seems that once they remember each other much of the curses power will fall apart.And when the curse crumbles, they'll all remember and that's pretty much the end of the show.So I think that storyline could stretch out for seasons.

Henry seemed to partially answer the question of why these people don't remember. He told Emma something about them have false memories.

The class room walls when Mary Margret was talking with David,have a design that is like a bean stalk,maybe a nod to Jack and the Beanstalk.

I liked how Mr.Gold's mention of the word Charming, while David was at the pawn shop seemed to almost trigger a memory. Is there supposed to be greater significance to that Windmill?

It almost seems as though Rumplestiltskin may be the most important character. He seems to have dealings with everyone thus far.

I like how David's story of feeling like he is living a life that isn't his mirrored that of Prince Charmings, where he literally was living a life that wasn't his but rather his brothers. Also in both stories he was being lead to be with the wrong woman while in the end he is supposed to be with Snow White/Mary Margret.

The ring Mary Margret has, that was the same one as Prince Charming was given by his mother, correct?

One thing about this show that is strange to me is why do some characters have names very fitting of their characters but others have no relation. It makes it somewhat confusing. Why can't Prince Charming still have the name James?
I really liked how charcters like Regina and Mr.Gold had meaningful names. Even Mary Margret, her last name a variation of a word for white.

It just becomes a little confusing to me trying to remember all these names.

Next week looks interesting. Who do you guys think is going to get killed? I think it could be the Sheriff, especially if he starts to remember things.

Macaila

Polarbear · Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:03 pm Post subject:

When they did the switcharoo at the beginning of the episode and brought in the magical twin brother it was oozing some mega cheese but I actually found the story between him and his mother to be quite touching.

Jemmz · Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:21 pm Post subject:

I was so disappointed when Charming only remembered his false memories!!!

I want him and Snow to be together again!

The fake names are extremely confusing. Because Charming has several names. James isn't even his real name, right? Did we even know what his real name was? I can't remember.

Im1oftheOceanic6 · Expert Vidder Joined: 23 Jun 2008 Posts: 3705

[quote="Polarbear"] I'm more interested in any show easter eggs, pertaining to the show.. there do seem to be quite a few in Mr. Gold's pawnshop. I think I saw some teacups so they could be going for Alice in Wonderland which would be another Disney non fairy tale property. quote]

I like the show easter eggs as well.I'm glad they are starting to put more in. I'd like to find some screen shots of Mr.Gold's pawn shop because I think it is full of easter eggs.

I noticed the Genie's lamp from Aladin was in there.

I hadn't thought of the tea set being from Alice in Wonderland.That would make sense. My first thought was that it was a nod to Beatuy and the Beast since it had (in the Disney version) singing/talking tea cups etc.I had read an article where TPTB said they had an idea for that.

Jemma, I'm also confused about Prince Charming's many names.I thought James was his name, but that could have been his brother, the real Prince's name. I don't remember hearing the real name of the 2nd Prince Charming.

Macaila