Lost Video Island

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xgene, please don't call Charlie stupid. Desmond saw Penny on the monitor. Desmond doesn't know Mikael is about to blow out the window. There was nothing Charlie could have done to keep Desmond away from that room except locking it from the inside. Please don't call Charlie stupid for saving Desmond's life. Also, I think Charlie believed he truly had to die to save Claire and Aaron.

As for Jack off the island and his state of mind... I don't really care at this point. The only thing I want to see on this show is:

- Sayid reuniting with Nadia
- Desmond reuniting with Penny
- But most of all, Claire and Aaron, saved and happy off the island.
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[IntoTheVoid]

My emotions were like a rollercoaster in this episode. I screamed, I cried and I laughed. I didn't know I could do all that in 80 minutes!

I can't really be bothered to write a long review, so i'll just bullet point it:

- I cried when Charlie died. I tried not to, but I couldn't help it. He sacrificed himself because he knew that it was what he had to do so his friends could get rescued. He IS a hero.

- Poor Jack, he's a train wreck. The last, uh, futureback(?) was amazing! I thought they wanted us to think it was Kate, and it wasn't going to be, but it was! Guh. It was just WOW. Evie's outfit made her look like someone out of Buffy. I recon the person who died was Locke. It would make sence. Jack is so affected by his death because he is the one who tried to keep him on the island (and Jack want's to be on the island)

- Jack's beard.. uh no.

- WALT? WHAAT?

- Ben was telling the truth! I expected him to be lying again. So if it wasn't Penny's boat, then why did Naomi have that picture of Desmond and Penny?

- Hurley is actually love. And i'm so glad Sawyer shot Tom. Cos a) I like bad Sawyer, and b) I didn't trust him either. But no! No Tack! THEY DIDN'T GET TO CONFESS THEIR LOVE FOR EACHOTHER!!!!! Speaking of love-confession.. aw!




k.. done. Need a wizz.
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"Jack is the guy she should be with.
She does genuinely love him.
And she knows that he would take excellent care of her." - Damon Lindelof

[PsychoCynic]

I'm going to copycat Elle and write down some of the big points:

- Charlie was amazing in this episode. The way he got Desmond get away with hiding, the way he got Bonnie to reveal the code, the way he worked the code. When I saw Mikal in that window with the grenade, it broke my heart. I was so glad that Desmond and Charlie both tried to save each other because it really says a lot about the friendship they achieved, but, ultimately, I was heartbroken when Charlie died. The music they played didn't help cheer me up either since it was so beautiful. I just hope Desmond was able to understand Charlie's message about the boat and Penny.

- I called the flashforwards from the first one they played. I don't know why, but I did. I thought it was a really cool idea for the writers to pursue. It's like all the fanfiction in the world, complied into canon! (KC, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the writers stole your ideas!) I hope this opens up a lot of possibilities for the remainder of the show.

- Warren, I love your Sawyerus reference!!! Though I do think that Sawyer was right in killing Tom because Tom was already have second thoughts about shooting into the sand - he wanted to kill Sayid and co! Speaking of Sayid and co., I was literally scared to death when I thought Sayid and Jin were dead.

- JAWYER reference! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!

- Hurley is made of awesome! Who would've thought to go back to the van! And he saved the day! Gosh, I *heart* him so much now.

- I can't believe Ben was telling the truth! But I can't blame Jack for not believing either Ben or Locke since both characters have had their ulterior motives all along. Too bad Locke wasn't able to blow up the remote when it was on the ground.

- I have this theory that Penny send out the Portugese men by the helicopter (thus having Catch 22 in a different language and Des/Penny photo), but Naomi and her people took over the plane.

Final notes:

1. Please come back to watching Lost, Jen! I know they've killed off Charlie, but you might find some other reason to watch! *hopeful*
2. My sympathies goes out to all the Charlie lovers. At least we know he died in a noble manner!
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[IntoTheVoid]

OMG I JUST CLICKED!

All the way through the episode I was thinking I knew Bonnie from somewhere, and then I suddenly realised! She was from the first ever episode of Angel!


In Angel back in '99


Last night

Josh also appeared in that episode:


Normal Sawyer..


VAMPIRE SAWYER! URRG ARRG!

Ok i'm done with the Angel stuff now. So yeah LOST, phwoar..
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"Jack is the guy she should be with.
She does genuinely love him.
And she knows that he would take excellent care of her." - Damon Lindelof

[Noj]

I'd just like to give a big round of applause to the producers, for giving me a nice big let down, and totally fucking up Lost. That was a nice big shark jumper, well done, well done...

Can't fault the actors, I blame the writers. Foxy absolutely nailed it, hope he can escape this to better things now really.

Charlie's death was a total and utter waste. Complete lack of realism. Mikael not dying, total lack of realism and FFS gimme a break. How do they think I'm gonna take this show seriously when someone won't die?
The flash forward stuff was alright, until the end where they just made it a complete joke. If they got rescued Kate will be in jail, it has to happen.

The beach stuff went down pretty well overall, was surprising though the start of it was meh. Hurley being a hero though was awesome, and Sawyer just putting a round straight in Tom's chest was ace. Sayid breaking that guys neck was good as well, Jin capping some people. Some good stuff.
The hike was fine apart from not beating Ben to death, which you would do, again until the end. WTF was that from Locke? Throwing the knife and threatening Jack etc, WTF. Once again Locke ruins it completely, just like he did in season 2 with all his fate crap.
The underwater station was alright, until the complete lack of realism and utter waste of a character. For christs sake is a pressure door. What is it designed for? Sealing off flooded areas to prevent the entire vessel flooding. All he had to do was run out and lock it. Though it's sad, all it's done is make me angry. Really really angry.

Fuck Lost. I won't be worrying about the wait till February thats for sure...
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Tear The World Apart - Just To See If You're Right

[Izzy94]

[Sheree]

I cried like a running faucet after Lost was over lastnight... and then I had to go to work today... and for 8 hours had to keep my feelings in check... I mean I came close to crying again at work.
So I come in this thread and read through all the posts and the tears just come pouring out of me.
I am so very angry.... sad... I just want to scream! I will NEVER NEVER understand their logic for killing him off.

Charlie had so much potential and their were so many untold stories to be told with him and with Claire and Aaron.

I too was angry at why he just didn't shove Desmond out with him and close the door behind him... Yes I know Des saw Penny... but Charlie had the time to explain to Des what was really going on.
Charlie was a hero ... I just wish the writers didn't give up on him.

But .... this morning I was talking with my sister and in my desperate attempt to come up with any storyline where Charlie comes back in the last season and he didn't really die... I came up with this idea that Michael rescues him from the water and is able to revive him (this without the knowledge of Desmond) ... I mean really WTF are Michael and Walt??? I don't believe that they really went "HOME"... I kept thinking back in Season 1 ... how long was Charlie hanging from that tree before Kate and Jack found him. If I remember right Jack said to Kate "He's not breathing" ... if it weren't for Jack pounding on him ... so isn't it still possible for Charlie to be revived??? Is it possible that if they were to bring Michael back in to the storyline for the last season that a storyline could be possible... I don't know it would have to mean Michael were in that exact spot... but then again we really don't know what him and Walt have been up to... maybe they are HOME... I know Charlie is dead ... but there is just this huge part of me that just can't accept it's really true...

I'm going to really miss him

Cinthia~ *BIG HUG*
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[PsychoCynic]

Y'know, Elle, someone on Livejournal said the same thing about Bonnie and I didn't believe them, but those two pictures really do look alike. She was so beautiful in Angel... well, I guess the makeup helped.

*waves to vampire!Josh Holloway*

[xJBxFROGURTxJBx]

Can I ask a Question ?

If Jacks flashes were flash forwards ... how could he say go up and see if my dads more drunk than i am and if he is you can fire me

his dads dead or is he alive now too ?

or am i missing something

[xgene]

[KajaM]

I just watched the finale and I'm still all sad and shocked (because of Charlie's death), but I'm also really upset. No long reviwe here therefore. It seems that quite a few people liked the flashforward thingie, but if you ask me, it just sucked!! I can't even exactly tell you why... I think I have to sleep on it first... I just hated it.

Concerning the person in the cofin: It's never ever Locke! First of all, Jack would never commit suicide because Locke died and secondly, I don't think that Locke will ever leave the island. I'd put my money on it that Locke will stay on the island, even if the rest gets rescued.

Sawyer killed Tom?? WTF!!! I hate you, James!!

Although I cried when Charlie died, I gotta say that he was amazing through the whole finale! It makes me angry though that they split up the "family" (cause that's really what they were). I feel bad for Claire and Aaron, but I hope they will get rescued so that Charlie's death wasn't in vain at least.

Hurley for president!

Even though the reunion of Alex and Danielle wasn't really spectacular, I actually enjoyed it. I'm glad they're finally reunited.

Ok, I need to get some sleep now... stupid finale kept me awake most of tonight already.
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[mistojen]

[Hobbes]

[SuperKC]

The Future!Backs or Flash!Forwards (or whatever we're calling them.)

- I dug them so much that I can't STAND IT. I want to watch them over and pick out all of the little things. But damn Foxy really outdid himself in this ep, I have to say. And I do say.

- Foxy KILLED ME on the bridge. KILLED. I just. I can't say any more about it. I loved that scene. And hey, not that I'm complaining, but would it have killed them to spend some budget money on an actual crash shot? How cool would that have been to see it happen behind him or something?

- The only scene that I felt was a bit redundant was the scene in the pharmacy. I mean, I guess it's hard to establish a drug problem and a reason for Jack to be breaking into medical supply cabinets, but we would have figured it out!

- Sarah is still a total bitch but you know, old habits die hard, I guess.

- A lot of folks are talking about Christian being alive, but I think it's clear from the way the Cheif of Surgery looks at Jack that his father is very much dead, and that Jack losing his friggin' mind! And you know what? Christian being dead makes me VERY VERY SAD. Stupid smoke monster, making me think Christian is alive!

- The funeral. I am convinced. CONVINCED that it was Sawyer. Someone said that the name on the obituary started with a J. This could be a number of people from the island, including Locke. I just don't believe that he would EVER leave the island. EVER. He'd die first. All Jawyer joking aside, I think that Jack and Sawyer have become "buddies" over the past two seasons. Despite their differences, they seem to have come to depend on each other. The games, the good-natured rivalry, and the concern. Lines like "you're just about the best friend I got." Etc. I think that they see themselves as equals. So yeah, I'm going to believe that the person in the casket was Sawyer, as much as it pains me to think that -because, you heard it hear first LVI, I FREAKING LOVE SAWYER! *cries*

- Kate's mysterious "HE." They mentioned the possibility of Kate being pregnant in this ep again. With high drama. That ain't for nothing kids! Just a theory! (And it didn't originate with me.) Sawyer lives on!

- The ramifications of the future!backs in general. I think it would be a brilliant move on their part to switch up the format a bit.
They could have future!backs that do not move chronologically, but jump around in time. We are ALL so so tired of flashbacks, amiright?
They could do a combination of both, futurebacks and flashbacks.
Or they could begin to move chronologically from this future and the island stuff will be the flashbacks. Or
They could move backwards in the futurebacks, forward on the island, and meet somewhere in the middle. You may think this is anticlimactic, but if you have ever watched memento, you KNOW that this is not really the case! If done well it can be TOTALLY EFFING MIND BLOWING.
They could forget the futurebacks altogether and just keep going the way they have been. (Which would be a damn shame!)
I can't think of anything else.

Station Charlie

- Charlie was kick-ass in this episode. I know all the Charlie fans are really upset about his death that it's hard to hear from someone like me, who has been a Charlie nay-sayer for a very long time. But he really was. Really. REALLY.

- The taunting of Bonnie and whats-er-face was brilliant and beautiful and funny.

- Charlie being the one to push the button was his fate after all. A musician. Desmond would not have been able to figure out the code.

- Mikhail never dies. Did we see his body explode into millions of tiny bits? No, we did not. Therefore, we can not assume anything about the status of his life. (I mean hey, if Richard Alpert can live forever, with only the aid of some well-placed magical mascara, then anything is possible!)

- Charlie's death was moving in a way that I don't think LOST has been capable of until now. I have complained so much about their crappy deaths that DO NOT give the characters their due (and they did nothing to alleviate this theory with Nikki and Paulo's pointless episode.) But with Charlie, they finally got it damn right. Him writing the message on his hand and just, sharing the look with Des. Oh I CRIED. Okay? The first time I teared up a bit. The second time, I CRIED.

- Everyone keeps saying that he didn't really HAVE to die. But what we're forgetting is that Desmond has told him that if his flashes don't play out exactly as they have in his mind, that they won't happen at all. IE, Claire would not get off the island. For a few minutes, Charlie thought he was in the clear, because it appeared they had somehow circumvented fate, and yet would still be able to save everyone. But when that bomb went off, Charlie realized that he was wrong - that he hadn't circumvented fate. And maybe he wasn't THINKING when he shut that door, locking Desmond out (and possibly saving him as well - though I have the notion that Desmond would have had the sense to stop watching TV and try to escape), and he couldn't have known how long it would take for that hatch to fill up, and he probably thought he wouldn't be able to shut the door from the outside if he had to drag des away from the screen and step outside far enough to close the door. He just did the first thing he thought of. There is always a moment when a thing can or cannot play out a certain way. And the writers ALWAYS put their characters in these situations. They NEVER find their own way there. So you could ALWAYS go back and say "Well if this, then this." But here? I'm not gonna do that. You guys can all you want.

The Rest of It

- The Alex/Danielle reunion was not lackluster by any means. I thought it was a good way of getting it done and the bonding through tying up Benry was not only hilarious, but very appropriate and fitting. I thought it was PERFECT.

- The scene were Jack goes apeshit and beats Ben to a bloody pulp over Sayid, Jin and Bernard. YES THANK YOU! Oh man I was so on edge. I just loved it. A fitting punishment. Even if it was a dirty trick, Ben.

- Ewww! She kissed him. Sadly, I have come to the conclusion that it's NOT Juliet. It is 100% Elizabeth Mitchell. I think she ruins any potential that this character may or may not have for me. She has about as much on-screen chemistry as a rock. I just. Can't. Stand. Her. Even when they give her funny lines! The Jawyer line! OH MY GOD! I DIED! And still don't like her. My apologies to any die-hard Elizabeth Mitchell fans in the group, but I will NEVER be able to take Juliet seriously because of the way she's playing her. Makes my skin crawl.

- Jate moment. It was a long time in coming, and apparently it's leading somewhere based on their brief moment of (but blazing) intimacy in the final scene. But other than that I have no comment.

- Skate moment by the stream. I really liked this. Evi still makes me cringe but Josh is getting better and better. I felt sorry for the both of them, to be honest. But thank Sawyer for saying out loud what we're all thinking. (No more pregnant ladies!)

- Walt is all growed up!

- Locke is totally schizo!

- Why is Richard answering to Ben? I STILL don't get that. Maybe that dude really was Richard's dad. "Immortal semi-hot dude vs. creepy glasses-wearing geek who ages normally (and badly)" I know who I would pick as my leader!

- Naomi. She seems too nice to be evil. And the guy on the radio? OMG he made me cry. When he said 'sit tight! we'll be right there!" The second time I saw that I was in tears. TEARS!

- Everyone's pissed at Sawyer killing Tom it seems. And as much as I liked Tom, I am just going to have to wholeheartedly disagree. Sure it's another revenge carried out, like the Real Mr. Sawyer. But it wasn't carried out IN HIS NAME. He did it for Walt and he did it for ALL OF THEM, because the ramications of that night were far more reaching than Walt being kidnapped for a couple months. Well Zeke, you had it coming. End of story. People died as a result of that. And god knows what else you've done in the name of Ben and Jacob. So THANK YOU SAWYER.

- The van, the leg crunch thingie, that was just awesome good fun. No other way of putting it.





WOW. I am SURE I'm missing something important. But I promised someone that I would give my real opinions here this time.

So there ya go.

[Hobbes]

KC full-review post!!! YAY!!!