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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 6:13 pm    Post subject: FrecklesPhoenix's Page Reply with quote

I am so sick of being a NOVICE VIDDER. I really don't want to be one anymore. So if someone would please tell me how I can stop making crappy vids, that would be lovely. I WANT to impress, I really do, but I have tried and it does not seem to be good enough.

Ugh.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

must be a bugger im sure.

i know that wen im watching a vid and there are little clip cuts that have been missed, i will never vote it gold. Im not sure what there actually called but you know when you see a lil split second clip that's been left behind accidentally? a lot of youtube vids have this issue. they take away from the vid. '

I know its not a program thing cos I've never used Vegas; starting too now, but it scares me , but your idea must be good. just another jate/pbj/skate vid, unless mindblowing, prob wont do all that well. thats why i loved your buffy/sawyer vid. Genius idea! The reason i dont think it got a gold was cos you could see that it was scenes from Lost mixed with scenes of Buffy quite clearly, not ur fault if you cant cut them, but if you can create clips that if ppl did not know better, they would think it had happened, they get high votes.

Clip choice is a big one, especially if there's a lyrics that fits perfectly with the song/idea. use it. makes it easier to follow.

effects are not necessary, becaue my beaituful disaster series only ever really used the fade in/out effect and i have two gold CP's for them, but if you do use them, be consisten. dont just for some reason fade out in one clip and never do it again. Beat use is also a great friend of mine and keeps the watcher interested. that i think should be your main goal of a vid, getting ppl to want to watch it, to want to know how it ends. with ur Buffy/Sawyer vid, i know i wanted to watch it just because of the idea so you have the right mindset

sos about the long post and these are my own thoughts on what you can do, someone else might have completely different ideas hope i helped a lil bit
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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must be a bugger im sure.

i know that wen im watching a vid and there are little clip cuts that have been missed, i will never vote it gold. Im not sure what there actually called but you know when you see a lil split second clip that's been left behind accidentally? a lot of youtube vids have this issue. they take away from the vid. '

I know its not a program thing cos I've never used Vegas; starting too now, but it scares me , but your idea must be good. just another jate/pbj/skate vid, unless mindblowing, prob wont do all that well. thats why i loved your buffy/sawyer vid. Genius idea! The reason i dont think it got a gold was cos you could see that it was scenes from Lost mixed with scenes of Buffy quite clearly, not ur fault if you cant cut them, but if you can create clips that if ppl did not know better, they would think it had happened, they get high votes.

Clip choice is a big one, especially if there's a lyrics that fits perfectly with the song/idea. use it. makes it easier to follow.

effects are not necessary, becaue my beaituful disaster series only ever really used the fade in/out effect and i have two gold CP's for them, but if you do use them, be consisten. dont just for some reason fade out in one clip and never do it again. Beat use is also a great friend of mine and keeps the watcher interested. that i think should be your main goal of a vid, getting ppl to want to watch it, to want to know how it ends. with ur Buffy/Sawyer vid, i know i wanted to watch it just because of the idea so you have the right mindset

sos about the long post and these are my own thoughts on what you can do, someone else might have completely different ideas hope i helped a lil bit




Yeah... that's some good advice and all, but I've tried all of that and it NEVER seems to work.

Windows Movie Maker sucks. Just a fact. I can't seem to make it work for me. I can't afford Vegas, and so I deal. That awkward 1 second clip that you don't have a name for pissed me off! I tried everything I could to get it out of the vid. I used a fade and a fade out to black and neither worked. I couldn't find an explanation for it.

And the fact that you could tell it was clips of Buffy mixed with clips of LOST was not really anything I could change, because I don't have the fancy effects of Vegas like split screen and cookie cutter!

I love that you replied and gave all this great advice, but I just can't seem to make my vids work even when I apply the tips. What do you do? You don't use Vegas. I just assumed it was the uniqueness of the vids you create (don't see tons of ConMama series out there...) so I thought, I'll go for something original!! Buffy/Sawyer!!! Then somebody submits a Spike/Kate one on the same day!!! And mine silvers!!



I wish I could make vids like you. Ones that get golds. I just want one friggen gold.


I guess I just gotta keep trying.


Thank you for the encouragement and tips. I'm sorry for the rant, but I just figured, hey, it's my page anyway...



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have any golds either. You're not alone. I have 3 silvers and two bronze, and it annoys me that I have bronzes. I dunno why. I understand about the problems with WMM, I've tried a thousand times to get rid of 'clip cuts' and she said that it wasn't just the program, but I've tried removing the clip and it still doesn't leave. it's just there, so that leads me to believe that there are a few glitches in the program. Didn't you download the Vegas trial? Use that! You can find codes that let you keep it longer I think.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FrecklesPhoenix wrote:
Windows Movie Maker sucks. Just a fact. I can't seem to make it work for me. I can't afford Vegas, and so I deal. That awkward 1 second clip that you don't have a name for pissed me off! I tried everything I could to get it out of the vid. I used a fade and a fade out to black and neither worked. I couldn't find an explanation for it.


Yes, it sucks. Here is the solution: Cut .07 seconds (or a similarly small increment) within whatever clip you want to use, and then stretch the clip that you have to the length you need using speed effects, which are obtainable at any WMM forum, such as this one.

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And the fact that you could tell it was clips of Buffy mixed with clips of LOST was not really anything I could change, because I don't have the fancy effects of Vegas like split screen and cookie cutter!


It is possible to do split screen using WMM; you just have to be creative with effects. As far as the clips from two different shows, the cinematography in Lost and the cinematography in Buffy are really very different, which might account for the jarring effect that Kat cited above.

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I love that you replied and gave all this great advice, but I just can't seem to make my vids work even when I apply the tips. What do you do? You don't use Vegas. I just assumed it was the uniqueness of the vids you create (don't see tons of ConMama series out there...) so I thought, I'll go for something original!! Buffy/Sawyer!!! Then somebody submits a Spike/Kate one on the same day!!! And mine silvers!!


I haven't watched or voted on either video, as AU with other shows don't appeal to me, but speaking as someone who's obtained a few golds every now and again, I will admit sometimes it's mystifying why some vids get gold and some get silver, but try to show them something they haven't see before. They may not have seen Buffy and Sawyer, but I bet they've seen several videos melding clips from different shows with 'Lost,' and I would think the novelty of that would have worn off.

It took me a good ten videos or so to get a gold, and I don't get them consistently, but that's the advice that I have.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SassyLostie2 wrote:
I don't have any golds either. You're not alone. I have 3 silvers and two bronze, and it annoys me that I have bronzes. I dunno why. I understand about the problems with WMM, I've tried a thousand times to get rid of 'clip cuts' and she said that it wasn't just the program, but I've tried removing the clip and it still doesn't leave. it's just there, so that leads me to believe that there are a few glitches in the program. Didn't you download the Vegas trial? Use that! You can find codes that let you keep it longer I think.



Thank you!!! I know exactly what you mean!!!

I already lost the trial, my 30 days are up. And if you could give me those codes... that would be awesome.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have them, but I lost the link!!! I think that littleton_pace may have given them to me in the beginning. Ask her maybe?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thefilmchick wrote:
FrecklesPhoenix wrote:
Windows Movie Maker sucks. Just a fact. I can't seem to make it work for me. I can't afford Vegas, and so I deal. That awkward 1 second clip that you don't have a name for pissed me off! I tried everything I could to get it out of the vid. I used a fade and a fade out to black and neither worked. I couldn't find an explanation for it.


Yes, it sucks. Here is the solution: Cut .07 seconds (or a similarly small increment) within whatever clip you want to use, and then stretch the clip that you have to the length you need using speed effects, which are obtainable at any WMM forum, such as this one.

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And the fact that you could tell it was clips of Buffy mixed with clips of LOST was not really anything I could change, because I don't have the fancy effects of Vegas like split screen and cookie cutter!


It is possible to do split screen using WMM; you just have to be creative with effects. As far as the clips from two different shows, the cinematography in Lost and the cinematography in Buffy are really very different, which might account for the jarring effect that Kat cited above.

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I love that you replied and gave all this great advice, but I just can't seem to make my vids work even when I apply the tips. What do you do? You don't use Vegas. I just assumed it was the uniqueness of the vids you create (don't see tons of ConMama series out there...) so I thought, I'll go for something original!! Buffy/Sawyer!!! Then somebody submits a Spike/Kate one on the same day!!! And mine silvers!!


I haven't watched or voted on either video, as AU with other shows don't appeal to me, but speaking as someone who's obtained a few golds every now and again, I will admit sometimes it's mystifying why some vids get gold and some get silver, but try to show them something they haven't see before. They may not have seen Buffy and Sawyer, but I bet they've seen several videos melding clips from different shows with 'Lost,' and I would think the novelty of that would have worn off.

It took me a good ten videos or so to get a gold, and I don't get them consistently, but that's the advice that I have.



Tell me how you can do a split screen with WMM!!! There is no split screen effect!! And using a long fade looks bad!!! Please, do give me the secret of the Windows movie maker split screen. I'd love to know it.

The .07 second cut out has worked for me before, but on this particular vid did not.

I've done like, 17 or 18 and still haven't gotten a gold.

Thanks for the post!! If you could reply and tell me how to do a split screen with WMM I'd be uber happy.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the split screen in WMM is an extra that i think you have to download somewhere. if Kate knows, id love to get it, too

yeah, i got the keygen, keeps ur vegas trial, from Kayla who is now on holidays. i dont have the link anymore when she gets back ill ask her for it

the clip cutting used to be a big issue for me, but eventually it stopped. sometimes when you click on a clip on the timeline that's meant to be say, kate on the beach you see a tiny clip of the scene before so i just move alone the timeline little bits at a time and then cut the clip. that way i still get most of the clip i want and the split is gone.

Yeah, its just pure bad luck that your vid came out when Bel's did

i dont get consistent golds either. the ones i do get are for vids that I really enjoyed making and worked hard on. i usually make three or four drafts before i submit. i watch it over and over until im bored of it, usually, to make sure there's no editing issues.

im sure you'll get better over time.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

littleton_pace wrote:
the split screen in WMM is an extra that i think you have to download somewhere. if Kate knows, id love to get it, too

yeah, i got the keygen, keeps ur vegas trial, from Kayla who is now on holidays. i dont have the link anymore when she gets back ill ask her for it

the clip cutting used to be a big issue for me, but eventually it stopped. sometimes when you click on a clip on the timeline that's meant to be say, kate on the beach you see a tiny clip of the scene before so i just move alone the timeline little bits at a time and then cut the clip. that way i still get most of the clip i want and the split is gone.

Yeah, its just pure bad luck that your vid came out when Bel's did

i dont get consistent golds either. the ones i do get are for vids that I really enjoyed making and worked hard on. i usually make three or four drafts before i submit. i watch it over and over until im bored of it, usually, to make sure there's no editing issues.

im sure you'll get better over time.



Thanks!!! Yeah, the codes and split screen thing would be great!!

Thank you for the encouragement. I have been thinking about stopping for awhile now, because of how poorly my vids have done here... but I'll stick with it for a little while longer...



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Linkage. I also have a link for vista, but atm, I think I'm the only person here using WMM Vista, so if anyone needs it, let me know.

Note: It is a transition, not an effect, so plan the vid appropriately.
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thefilmchick wrote:
Linkage. I also have a link for vista, but atm, I think I'm the only person here using WMM Vista, so if anyone needs it, let me know.

Note: It is a transition, not an effect, so plan the vid appropriately.



Thank you so much!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't give up! I hope everything works out for you, but definitely don't give up, cuz your vids are better than mine!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SassyLostie2 wrote:
Don't give up! I hope everything works out for you, but definitely don't give up, cuz your vids are better than mine!


Don't say that!! Your vids are great!!

And btw, I love your signature. "Jack came back but Sawyer never left"! HA!!!

I'm such a Skater.
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Oh, come on. Your Sawyer/Buffy vid is better than anything I could've done. It looked amazing for a WMM. And I'm a huge Skater too. Besides, Jack saying that he'd come back for Kate after leaving the island, really pissed me off. lol Keep making more vids!
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