Lost Video Island

lostcalier · Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 6:02 pm Post subject: Broken links on videos

As most of you know picapic a program that hosted a lot of our videos no longer works. Which has left us with a lot of vids with broken links in our submit area and a greater number of broken links already on the site. Not to mention services link YSI that only last for a week. We're looking for input from all of you so we can see what you guys think is most fair on your end. For us it's just an amount of work issue but for you guys its an issue of the quality of service we provide you with. So we'd like to know what your thoughts on the issue are. Please vote and if you have any further thoughts please post them. This is your chance to let the council know where you stand on an impending policy change.
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lostcalier · Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:47 am Post subject:

Everyone please vote and encourage others to vote on this issue. This is your opportunity to have a say in a policy change ont he site. We will take into account the results of the poll when we make our final decision on the issue.
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Hobbes · Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:04 am Post subject:

lostcalier · Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:28 am Post subject:

Hobbes · Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:30 am Post subject:

Aislynn · Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:43 am Post subject:

I voted for "delete it from the submit area and notify the vidder." A simple template email letter should do the trick for the notifications, but if that turns out to be too much work, then I'd think just delete it and don't notify. Might sound a bit harsh but there's really no use in putting up a vid that can't be watched. The word should be getting out now to just about everybody who uses Picapic, so they should be aware that those links don't work anymore.

It's kinda up to we vidders to make sure that people can see our vids, I think. There's a LOT of free hosting places out there now. There should be at least ONE of the more "permanent" ones that will work for everybody. If not, then if YSI is the only place that will work, there's always somebody here who'd be willing to download the vid and try for a better link for it. I certainly understand having uploading troubles (BOY, do I understand!

) but it doesn't make much sense to use YSI as your primary link. All that usually gets is a string of people asking for a new link once that one has expired.

Only my opinions, of course. But since you asked...I answered.

Hobbes · Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:03 am Post subject:

heya, sorry to go into the arguement, but I'd like to point out some problems with that method. If it weren't for these I would be for it too, but they change things:

1) A video "not working" would be relative to who saw the video and determined the video doesn't work. This means to someone on IE might not get it working, while it works on Firefox.

2) Sometimes it's not the vidder's fault, such as if Putfile takes it off for including illegal content which they seem to do randomly.

3) Lots of work to send emails to a lot of people, and if we don't it's very likely that anyone who's video isn't up in a day or two is goign to worry that something was wrong with their video and send us PMs to check on their video to make sure it's working and whatnot, kinda eliminating the option to back out of sending them. I already get roughly 4 of these a day for other things, I'd hate to see what can happen when newcommers are worried about their videos being deleted

4) Most people affected by this are probably not what you'd call "computer competent" and likely newcommers to the vidding scene. This makes it another step necessary for them to get their video online, and may discourage or make it impossible for those who have a lot of trouble with out conventional reliable hosters like Putfile.

Aislynn · Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:10 am Post subject:

Hobbes · Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:39 am Post subject:

Hey! Your opinion is still very-much appreciated!

Just giving the counter-arguement to your very well put arguement.

lostcalier · Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:48 am Post subject:

Just to keep this going Warren no changes will be made without noting them on the main site. If "newbies" are having a problem then they can contact us because that's what we're here for and if they are worried it's just a simple "it's there and will be up soon" type message to put them at ease.

As I've said to you ebfore we have 8 council members for a reason and if need be I can designate someone e-mail sender. I don't know but it isn't that big of an issue to send an e-mail or for me to even write up generic ones.

As for that final issue about people having trouble I again state that as the councl we're here to help those people and if we post there bad vids then they won't contact us because they may not catch on to the problem. A lot of people just submit the vid then don't check back on it. At least this way they will know there is a problem and we can help them from there.

Just my thoughts on it all.

Aislynn thank you for all your thoughts and I strongly encourage everyone else to chime in because the more varying opinions we have the better for making a final decision.
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