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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, I agree with you too. Hmm, Charlie telling her about the visions? I never thought of it like that. I think that would have been interesting. Claire should have fought harder for him anyway. I read a fic by Sapphire child (maybe you read it too? I think I might have seen your review there) where Claire fought to save Charlie. She cared about him so much she went down to the Looking Glass station and put her own hand between the heavy door as he shut it I was so shocked! Canon Claire would NEVER EVER do that! After she said he was going to be alright in the show and said she hadn't given up on him people had high hopes, I know that. Now it just seems like she was lying all along At least we will have fanfic!Claire and lovely ideas in creativity such as fics, vids and graphics to keep us Charlie/PB&J fans going.

Oh, the finale! I could never watch that whole episode again. Never. I don't even want to. It would just be a waste of time.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I started reading the other page but really had to stop. I hate character bashing most of all when it's my favourite character.


*raises hand* Agreed! I don't even go out of my way to bash the characters I really hate (like Jack or Locke) because I'm always afraid of offending someone. Anywayz, I just wanted to say I can understand why people don't like him, but I still love him and I don't want to argue about it. Everyone has their own opinion - I've got mine and you've got yours.

Back to Par Avion, I liked this episode fairly well, but I'm unsure how much I like Desmond after it. I'm glad he saved Charlie's life again and got Claire her birdie, but I dunno, I still don't know if I like him very much.

Finally we get a Claire flashback!! *squee* I hated Maternity Leave so this was a major relief to have interesting Claire flashbacks (without Ethan, too, that's a huge plus). I already knew Jack and Claire were brother and sister but it was pretty neat how they set everything up.

I couldn't believe it when she said she didn't want to know his name. I was like, "AAGH!" The writers are trying to kill us with the anticipation of Claire and Jack finding out their relation. Jack's an uncle and he doesn't even know it.

I loved the voiceoever at the end, when Charlie was reading the letter. I thought it was really nice. (I agree that Sawyer didn't need to be in this ep...it would have been fine without him. Surprisingly enough I might be getting a little sick of Sawyer at the moment). I can't wait to watch the next ep and find out Locke's story!


Yeah, it was great to have a Claire FB again! We hardly knew anything about her. I thought the whole emo thing was great (as well as kinda funny). Claire needs more flashbacks. No wonder some people find her boring! She has potential and the writers need to use her more!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, don't get me wrong, Jemma, I still love Charlie. Just so far in S3 he's been really mopey and depressed. And I don't like it. I'll assume though, that things will get better. Don't tell me if I'm wrong. I like to have hope, haha.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aw, lol. I can't blame him for being depressed. It's just a shame though isn't it. Poor guy
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jemmz wrote:
Yep, I agree with you too. Hmm, Charlie telling her about the visions? I never thought of it like that. I think that would have been interesting. Claire should have fought harder for him anyway. I read a fic by Sapphire child (maybe you read it too? I think I might have seen your review there) where Claire fought to save Charlie. She cared about him so much she went down to the Looking Glass station and put her own hand between the heavy door as he shut it I was so shocked! Canon Claire would NEVER EVER do that! After she said he was going to be alright in the show and said she hadn't given up on him people had high hopes, I know that. Now it just seems like she was lying all along At least we will have fanfic!Claire and lovely ideas in creativity such as fics, vids and graphics to keep us Charlie/PB&J fans going.

Oh, the finale! I could never watch that whole episode again. Never. I don't even want to. It would just be a waste of time.



Yeah I did read that fic. Wasn’t it really great? Cannon Claire needs to be more like that. Trust me it was not my choice to watch the finale. I was forced by my sister. I had to leave the room when Charlie dies though. I couldn't bring myself to watch it again.

I always love Claire’s flashbacks. I don’t know why, there is just something about them, like in Raised by Another when we find out that the psychic knew that the crash was going to happen. I always find her flashbacks really interesting.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I kinda liked emo!Claire. She kind of looked good with black hair but I don't think Emilie de Ravin could look bad if she tried. It was interesting to see her with her mom and dad. I think if I met my dad after thinking he was dead since I was 2, I might have reacted the same way. I felt really bad for her when she was talking to her mom at the end about how sorry she was.

I still want to know more about the psychic from Raised by Another, because he was in Eko's flashback once, remember? He told Eko he was a fraud, but my logic if, if the psychic was a fraud, why did he care so much about getting Claire to keep her baby?

In Two for the Road, was that Claire's aunt Christian Shepherd was talking to? I thought I recognized her from that...
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always found Charlie's flashbacks amazing! I mean, it didn't matter what happened I was just fascinated by learning more about him. So I was a little disappointed at Greatest Hits but ah well, it still had Charlie's past in I never found Claire's that great, but I'm always up for learning more about her. She has quite an interesting past and I'm curious about Aaron! (as is emilie)

The only time I have/will ever watch Charlie's death again is to make vids and even then I won't "watch" it. It's awful, first time I tried vidding with it I cried.
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Then I noticed he crossed himself which I didn't remember him doing the first time so I just sat there and cried

But you know, it's never nice having to watch people die (which the writers force on us in almost every episode ) but when it's a character you've connected with? Just awful.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In Two for the Road, was that Claire's aunt Christian Shepherd was talking to? I thought I recognized her from that...


I hope they come back to the whole RAISE AARON! thing.

And yeah, I think so. It couldn't have been Claire's mum. So it probably was I think.
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Yeah, I want to know what the whole "danger surrounds this baby" thing was! Is Aaron the antichrist or something?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hehe *thinks of the recent competition where some people entered videos of Aaron being the antiChrist* You should check some of them out! They were awesome

They better come back to the Aaron thing this series Otherwise, what was the point
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aaron Heehee. I'm really interested to see what they'll do with that plotline. I hope they'll come back to it.
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